One final point, what have you done with the money you were going to pay Greg Bird? I'm guessing that was a pretty sizeable sum, and could be put to very good use with a little thought....

How much is Trill these days?

Here we go again! when things do not go according to expectations. shoot someone preferably the coach as he's the one open to influence. Well I dont buy it, When stuff starts to go tits up it does not take a lot of effort to spiral downwards. however to first arrest the decline and then to improve takes superhuman effort. The team are not putting in the effort, in training or on the pitch, too many players think they are owed an easier ride. so the coaching staff have to concentrate on the lesser known "stars". it's not the done thing to sack stars on big bucks it would take braver men financially than Hood or Macca to do that. we may be in the doldrums for a season or two ( have I said this before?). But we're bigger than the sack em and hang em out to dry clubs. We have to get behind the club, beleive in our younger playing staff and the current coaches it's not their training schedules that are to blame but the players reluctance to give 100%. Have faith and keep your powder dry. they wont be any miracles or quick fixes no matter who's in charge next season. Anyway we wont be relegated yet

You apear to all be worried about dwindling crowds ,what was the attendance the last time Hull came to Odsal?

That's not what I'm talking about, though. We've done well as have others with rookie Aus coaches (Matty Elliott, anyone?) and who was his young assistant at Bradford? It is not so much the proven coaching ability that I was talking about as Australian player knowledge and contacts, and I mentioned in only in context that we couldn't afford any of the top Aus halfbacks either who aren't in a Bird-like situation. These guys know players that English coaches can't know. I remember us bringing in people almost unknown over here like Danny Peacock and Jeremy Donougher who were outstanding successes (not youngsters but you see my point) who we would never have got except because of the Aus connection.

We can bring in as many of our youngsters as we like, and I hope we do, but we do look as if this season we are at sixes and sevens at 6 and 7 and the 'signing' of Bird suggests we know it too. I'd bet some of Iestyn's biggest past detractors would pay to have him back in the team just now. As Joni Mitchell sang, you don't know what you've got till it's gone.

Still, if we don't get anybody, today was a huge improvement attack-wise on what we've done in the previous 3 games, and people's form can improve. Jeffries was considerably improved, and it is only a short time ago that Deacon was playing very well for us so maybe he's just in a bad patch and maybe he'll get back to somewhere near the form which has served us so well over the years.

In the SL Regular Rds:

17-Jun-07 ..... 11,557
22-Jun-08 ..... 9,511
17-Aug-08 ..... 9,181
15-Mar-09 ..... 11,327

Pretty good today.

You're talking a lot of sense there FA, bet the usual suspects will ignore it

Difficult situation but the licence system does not lend it to quick hiring and firing.

Millward offers considerably more than McNamara but on rebuilding I don't think he has a great record of that.

I think you need to looklong term, but look beyong Macca. I would also probably avoid Lowes or Harrison.

Would probably go Brian McDermott if he would come.

That's why the club needs a great big pick me up something to reignite the fans interest show that we still have ambition.

I think we should sack Mac as soon as possible and try the innovative stance of coaching by commitee. I am sure that there are enough know it all experts on here who could pool their talents and experience to pull the club out of the $hit we are in.

Can't argue with that one bit. Irrefutable argument.

Just need some dosh to do it



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Our mid 90's revival was sparked by selling our best player for a large sum and bringing in a new coach with the ability to make inspirational signings.

Wonder what price would we get for Sam Burgess?