But Saints are still in the top 3 and Catalans are still bottom of the table. A one off fluke loss does not a failure make.

True, but then their 3 consecutive Grand Final losses may do.

It may not aswell, yeah I'd say it doesn't.

Then perhaps you embellish failure.

No doubt Harmison and the rest of the bowling attack will begin a dialogue of "explain failure".

In anticipation, 3 main event Grand Finals, 3 losses. Simples.

So they lost one game at the end of the season, where did they finish on the ladder? 1st, can't see how that is failure. Maybe they missed out on what they really wanted, but it's a long way from failure.

If you purely base success on silverware, your appreciation of Rugby League and possibly other things in life is very "narrow"
Most Bulls supporters have fantastic memories of the team competing to win, many remember feelings of great pride when they might have even lost a close game to a better team on the day but sweated "blood" trying to win it for themseves & us.
Success can be measured in many ways including crowd numbers, atmosphere, empathy between the team & its supporters, games won etc etc and, of course, silverware!
[uBut[/u, to measure success purely on trophies is the thinking of a "glory hunter fan" not the true supporters who enjoy seeing their team improve in skills & confidence, who enjoy seeing the club's young players making their mark on the game and getting the game time they deserve and, of course, the thrill of seeing their team competing for major honours ~ None of which has happened under McNamara !!!!!!

And up steps another bowler into the attack.

Save the sermon for the naive masses champ.

Clinging to some tenuous "empathy between supporters" style measurement of success is weak. At best. Poor. Very, very poor.

The essence is the reference to Potter as "a winner" as a coach. I am still awaiting an explaination how that is the case given his resources and evidence to the contrary.

But don't let that stop your Alice in Wonderland venture.

The board are going to have to be careful on any new appointment. I for one believe they need some much improved marketing and a coach who can communicate with the fans as well as players. I used to feel part of the Bulls team. These last few years I definitetely feel as if I am just a customer.

Very well, but they were not up against anything so it is pretty hard to judge.

As well as the last 7 sides to play us. So that's 7 coaches we should be after? Or are we just sh it?

Hmmm. So if this is failure, then where do you stand on McNamara then?

Around the rib cage usually.

I'd take a GF loss over a 9th place finish.

Probably deserved too but how about not trying to ignore the question?

How about you leave your armchair in Scotland to attend and game and have a foundation for your judgements.

Post of the year

A worthy contender.

But careful, he will accuse you of "bullying" and "hunting in packs" and similar paranoid nonsense.

So you can't answer the question? I will make it easy for you then. Even from my armchair in Scotland I can see that a runner-up spot in the GF is considerably better than a ninth place finish. You see a GF runners-up spot as failure so what then does a 9th place finish constitute?

But you ARE a bully Adey. Plenty have commented on it. Shame for you that eh?

I will make it even easier for you....nothing you say has any substance.

Adey maybe a bully, I personally don`t think he is but at least he isn`t a thrush.

And until you can answer a simple question the same will be said about you.

Fair question and comment







So people who are unable to attend automatically have an invalid viewpoint???? Nonsense.

I personally know a couple of people who are unable to attend who have forgotten more about RL than most on here know, are they not entitled to a view either? Sure I agree that people who attend, see things with their own eyes and form their own judgement have more weight to their point and argument, but not to the total exclusion of all others who can't attend for whatever reason. If that were true then I suspect only about 25 Bradford fans could comment on the quins game last night.

ME often does not help himself, obviously, and has caused everyone to prejudge all his posts, if you automatically dismiss him then thats your business, but in this instance that was a fair question, how can multiple GF runnner up possibly be compared to the failure of multiple 9th place finishes? Even considering the relative resources available.

Potter has demonstrated more success (depending on the measure of course) than Mcnamara or Mcdermott IMHO.
And Im not a bowler of any description before you start and I'd be happy with either McDermott or Potter for different reasons.

The fact he rarely even watches the team in any guise invalidates his smug, crass and inaccurate observations.



In what way given that the resources have been critical to what he has "achieved"?

Well you go and watch I guess so how come you still cannot answer the question!?!

There was nothing inaccurate about the question. You come on here and try to talk down to people. Why then, when faced with a simple question cannot you not answer it?

Duckman got it spot on yet still you try to avoid the issue. What a sad case.