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Quote: M@islebugs "IF we keep the squad together I think it's marginally better. That means we're looking for teams in the top 8 who will fare less well. The 2 obvious candidates are Hull and HKR. HKR have lost Dobson but Sandercock seems a decent coach who knows what he's doing. Hull finished 8th and look markedly weaker.
Being positive I'm tipping 8th'"


Have to agree the squad is better than last season, and if it stays in situ we would probably be OK, however "IF we keep the squad together", doesn't that leave us hurtling towards that financial 'black hole', somewhere near the Doo Doo galaxy?

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Quote: Bulliac "Have to agree the squad is better than last season, and if it stays in situ we would probably be OK, however "IF we keep the squad together", doesn't that leave us hurtling towards that financial 'black hole', somewhere near the Doo Doo galaxy?'"



Heaven only knows Bulliac. There's so many things we don't know despite a great effort by everyone on here to run through the possibilities. My guess is that the 'black' hole isn't so very black. Anyone could look at revs v costs and see a gap. Calvert's trade is about applying pressure and taking matters to the brink. He'll be one hard faced mofo that's for sure.

On the squad we're in a double bind. Lose good players to London and/or Wakey and we step inevitably closer to the galaxy of which you speak. Very hard to call it right as London and Wakey are probably playing poker. Clubs, probably including us will be trying to offload fringe players, which they don't want. In our case they'll be hoping we have to blink first. We're maybe the loss of 2 or 3 players away from significant danger.

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Quote: M@islebugs "Heaven only knows Bulliac. There's so many things we don't know despite a great effort by everyone on here to run through the possibilities. My guess is that the 'black' hole isn't so very black. Anyone could look at revs v costs and see a gap. Calvert's trade is about applying pressure and taking matters to the brink. He'll be one hard faced mofo that's for sure.

On the squad we're in a double bind. Lose good players to London and/or Wakey and we step inevitably closer to the galaxy of which you speak. Very hard to call it right as London and Wakey are probably playing poker. Clubs, probably including us will be trying to offload fringe players, which they don't want. In our case they'll be hoping we have to blink first. We're maybe the loss of 2 or 3 players away from significant danger.'"


The variables are virtually impossible to permutate. It's all about "if"isn't it? The fact we haven't the stability that London and Wakefield seem to have, is baffling to me? Agreed they are also backs to the wall outfits, however , all our plans, unlike theirs, seem to have been stymied once more! Maybe the crucial and significant difference,is the fact that £650k per year we are down over 2013 and of course 14. Those clubs not penalised by this situation are guaranteed £1.15m in 2014 which in essence is just income not turnover. Therefore I agree with everything said.
Level our playing field a bit more, and then we can assess our true prospects.

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Quote: Lythambull "Looking at how other squads have recruited I think that if we can hold the team together then we'll end up in a three way shoot out with both Hull's for eighth place. Even writing that feels optimistic mind you, but we are better than those we finished above last time round.
I would tip the league to look like this...
1. Wire
2. Wigan
3. Giants
4. Saints
5. Leeds
6. Salford
7. Catalans
8. Bulls
9. KR
10. Hull
11. Widnes
12. Wakey
13. Cas
14. London

Clearly this is my heart talking, so to put things another way, if we finish above KR we'll be in the playoffs, but honestly, I'd take 11th if it meant we could build for 2015.'"

nothing like being optimistic icon_lol.gif

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Quote: snowie "nothing like being optimistic Yeah, there's no way you guys are finishing above Cas icon_wink.gif

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Quote: snowie "nothing like being optimistic
there are 5 of starting 17 i know won't be there at start of season! but i know nothing about bulls do i icon_wink.gif and carvell will only be there once this year

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Quote: tamargrace "there are 5 of starting 17 i know won't be there at start of season! but i know nothing about bulls do i
Unless there is a return in the cup

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Quote: tamargrace "there are 5 of starting 17 i know won't be there at start of season! but i know nothing about bulls do i
Just curious, is this from the same twitter source that you used to announce on the wakey forum that Liam Finn had signed for Wakey the week before he signed for Cas? icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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Quote: Duckman "Just curious, is this from the same twitter source that you used to announce on the wakey forum that Liam Finn had signed for Wakey the week before he signed for Cas?
You can't question the unwashed , they'll get you banned from the boards. I did like the Liam Finn comment though . He went from a potential superstar to an over the hill nobody just by signing for Cas

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Quote: Nothus "Yeah, there's no way you guys are finishing above Cas Sorry but are we looking at the same two groups of players?
Bulls are stronger in the props, second row, outside backs and at full back for sure and there's a strong debate for the rest of the park.
Lynch is past his best. Liam Who?? Luke Dorn has jumped out of the frying pan and into another frying pan as far as playing in a winning team goes and Weller Hauraki has one good year followed by a bad one (he played well last year BTW).
I could go on, but there's no chance the current Bulls side finishes below Cas.

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Nothus is a Bulls fan. His comments were aimed at the Wakey...visitor.

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Quote: Adeybull "Nothus is a Bulls fan. His comments were aimed at the Wakey...visitor.'"

Oops. Note to self.... Read the thread better. Sorry Northusicon_wink.gif

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I think Hull are slightly better off this season that the last few because we have got better cover in all positions than we have had for a while.

Where you finish in the league depends on your second 17 players not your first 17 as injuries always bite and play havoc, the Top 4 teams seem to replace injured players and is doesnt effect them as much we lose a Top player and we notice.

Saying that Hull have got 7 new players for this season and we would like to think it will improve us but who knows, pretty sure we will finish in the Top 8 though.

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Quote: biggunbrad "You can't question the unwashed , they'll get you banned from the boards. I did like the Liam Finn comment though . He went from a potential superstar to an over the hill nobody just by signing for Cas'"

Ah Vinnidog/bigunbrad comes on another teams boards to spew his bile, stick to throwing coffee at Richie Mathers, and spew some more bile on the Nutjobs forum!

Sorry Bulls but this guy really is a sandwich short! icon_wink.gif

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