FA - To be fair to Oafy , his first post was anything but trollish . On the in game thread he posted:

Was impressed with your hooker today, thought sidlow was really good, gaskell did really well,
I must admit when I saw walker lash out i put my head in my hands n said straight away he was off think we probably got away with 1 there, all your tries came up our middle probably a result of having 1 prop, our fringe defence was up to the job today you just bust us up the middle as expected, all in all the game was won with our backs being a bit better than yours (no offence)
best of luck for the season really enjoyed my visit (and the £2.50 a pint)

I think my new self discipline rule is to never read past half way down page one of any game thread.

Thanks bullnorthen I came on to talk about today's game and maybe had a little sarcastic dig towards ferocious biased n pretty poor post i suppose that was to make me feel better about my small penis

Bullnorthern, I was at the game, not in the thread, and just responded wearily when I had posted a long discussion about the game, to be met with his poor one liner which seems to be just looking for a rise. As he has now admitted. He could have commented on what it was he so disagreed with and why, but instead just farted. If he makes a reasonable post it will be treated as such.

Here goes
No 1 it wasn't a punch from walker he pushed him in the face
no2, I wouldn't say Adam walker is a cowardly fckr
No3 you had a 3 prop advantage all game
no4 there wasn't a head injury so game was correctly played on
no5 you say you were the better team then contradict yourself ,the game was even you wasn't the better side and our tries didn't all come off you mistakes if that's the case we must be 1 hell of a lucky team

1 The point is he floored O'Brien with a straight to the face and it was a straight sending off. It was a "blow" not a "push".
2 He did a cowardly thing and so what you would or wouldn't say is irrelevant. What does he say about what he did? Brave and fearless?
3 Sorry. I have watched the video and yes, you played with 10 men all game. My bad.
4. A man went down and wasn't moving, whether it turned out to be a head injury is irrelevant the point is the game should under the new rules be stopped. The team assumed play would be stopped and hesitated, which led directly to your try.
5. I'm not contradicting myself, I'm being fair to both teams. The game was indeed even, your winning margin certainly came off mistakes, and yes on the day you very much had the rub of the green. As you well know.

The ref was shocking both ways, the point where he penalised us for holding down, the pulled ferguson out and warned about holding on was laughable. I thought he lost the game early and never really recovered. Still good game to watch, hope you lot carry on and have a good season, come middle 8 time anything can happen.

My main gripe with the ref was his body language. Both sides scored a try when the defending team stopped to watch him as he went through the motions of blowing for a penalty without actually doing it. Hull KR first for the score that put them to 28 points, and then Bradford's next try was scored in much the same way.

It was a good learning experience for our lads. It confirmed some things we already know and we learned some new things.

It showed the value of a good kicking game. We just couldn't deal with those bombs and cross kicks. There was no protection for the catchers to stop the HKR runners contesting the ball and there was far too little kick pressure on Campese and Kelly. They're both good enough without allowing them time to get the kick in.

Our kicking game was less pinpoint and never gave us much chance at getting the ball back.

I thought we played dumb football at times, pushing the pass and making unnecessary offloads in the wrong areas. It's good that we feel confident enough to chance our arm but some stuff was just plain daft. There were a few brainfarts from players who are sadly becoming a bit too well known for this.

On the good side we went forward up the middle all day. The pack was excellent and could've been even better with a fourth prop. My concerns about Walker in the centres were unfounded, he had a good game.

The ref made a few calls that I thought were debateable. The 2 on 1 steal on Addy was obviously ruled as a loose carry by him. That was a 50/50 call. But really, he shouldn't have needed to be fumbling to catch a risky offload from his teammate. We were a bit unlucky there but if we'd not tried the dodgy offload we'd not have been in that position.

The call where Baille was lying prone and play was allowed to continue looked inconsistent. I was unhappy about that but we must learn from it and not switch off. Play to the whistle!

The O'Brien "punch" looked to me less like a pre-meditated haymaker and more of a frustrated shove that went badly wrong. I'd like to see the replay. It was handbags after that. O'Brien himself says today it wasn't a proper punch.

The final score was a bit of a blowout and it wasn't that sort of game. I think with the likes of Mullaney, Purtell, Blythe, Williams and one of our props back we'll be a different proposition.

You know what the sun is shinning and I'm in a pretty good mood so i really can't be bothered to continue in a pointless argument we won at the end of the day so your right and I'm wrong enjoy the rest of your season and hopefully our paths won't have to cross again for a good few seasons

I doubt a different ref would have made enough difference but a few different players, on either side, might have done. If/ when we get Rovers in the middle eights then I would hope we have learned enough about their strengths, and our weaknesses in relation to that. Of particular note was their kicking game and how we didn't do enough to deal with it. It's not like it's a new revelation that the wind swirls around Odsal. Ideally shutting down the kicks , or attempting to and having the right defenders in place to deal with what gets through.......Purtell is usually fairly good at standing strong at it.......A bit more success in that part of the game makes an obvious improvement. I think the offensive side of kicking depends on who is in the squad but for me we need more capability.....as in a wider spread of individuals. It's stating the obvious and I presume it's frequently worked on.

Quite agree. While the punch from Sidlow was seen by most fans at the game, the 'punch' by Walker was actually a push in the face which was admitted by O'Brien in the Bradford paper today. He could have won an Oscar award in the way he threw himself on the floor

Did the fish head morons manage to get the bar closed at half time again or did they behave themselves yesterday?

Let's stay on topic please if possible.

No excuses for the lack of kick pressure.

But in the first half, HKR peppered our rt side defence with high kicks and they didn't get a lot of joy from it. Their catchers were under pressure and invariably we got the ball back in some form or another.

The second half, 2 things changed. HKR were kicking into the wind, so the ball held up more. But more importantly, our winger was injured and replaced at half time, leaving Walshaw (2nd row) & Henry as our centre/wing combo. And that didn't work with HKR scoring 3 tries from kicks down that side in the second half.

But they should have at least been under some kind of pressure.

As for striking - what was manifestly unfair was that both sides got the same penalty. I thought red for Walker & yellow for Sidlow, or yellow for Walker & a warning for Sidlow would have been fair. But ultimately, I'll respect the disciplinary verdict. If they hit Walker with a 1 match ban, then he should have had a red card in game.