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Quote: mystic eddie "Common sense really. You would think after a few seasons of the worst halfback pairings in the league at Odsal then people could appreciate the talents of McGuire. Petty narrow minded anti-Leeds bias at its best. There is no other logical reason.'"


McGuire's talents are limited to being a decent support player. In terms of actually being a creative pivot he's never struck me as being able to take charge of a game. Now, that may be down to short comings in his ability or the fact that he's had players like Sinfield, Diskin and Burrows taking the hard work.

I doubt that he could do the job of say a Briers at Wire or a player of that ilk.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: Roofaldo "McGuire's talents are limited to being a decent support player. In terms of actually being a creative pivot he's never struck me as being able to take charge of a game'"


You couldnt be more wrong if you tried. Maybe 8-10 years ago. But McGuire is our most creative pivot before Webb sinfield burrow and buderus. McGuire is a maker and a provider of trys he's up there in the top of the sl try assists with sl 6's as well as been as good a finisher in the game. some teams have one or 2 pivots maybe 3, Leeds have 4 or 5 and his number of assists are more impressive by this fact and say he is far more than a poacher. Which is obvious to anyone who watches him week in week out.

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Quote: Duckman "U20's/reserves, same thing with different eligibility rules, you know what i mean. Last week he was part time and working and expecting to play championship level, he needs to get up to speed, I'm not suggesting keeping him in the reserves for half the season but he's not the biggest physically and if we start him at 6 in Cardiff against Leeds I suspect Leeds will target him and we'll expect too much from him and I see no point in throwing him in the deep end like that and risk havign his confidence smacked out of him striaght away. So a few games in the U20's whilst he learns our systems and gets used to full time is no problem IMHO.'"


I'd give him a couple of games in reserves purely to give him time to learn our plays without the added pressure of being in spotlight against leeds and wigan. Dont agree that he needs time to get his fitness upto superleague levels as I'd say championship first team is already a higher level than our u20's otherwise why do we send our better u20's out on loan to championship teams. IF he fits in well in friendlies then obviously throw him in at cardiff, but we've a lot off new players to integrate already and kearney and herbert have a month or two advantage over kyle in terms of getting a combination going.

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Let's not turn this thread into another 'is Danny McGuire a World Class stand off' again.

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McGuire if fit would walk into our side and probably most in the league.

A few years ago he was mainly a support player but from what i've seen the last couple of seasons he has a lot more to his game now.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



So does Briggs play against Leeds then or what?

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Quote: sgtwilko "So does Briggs play against Leeds then or what?'"


too early to say. takes a while to integrate a half into the squad. Personally I'd stick with kearney for leeds and wigan games then bring him in. But if he goes well in training and remaining friendlies then who knows.

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It might be a bit early for him against Leeds.

He's come from part time training into a totally new squad at a higher level than he's used to.

I agree - no point wrapping him up in cotton wool, he's not a kid, but I don't think he'll be up to speed by MM.

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Quote: mat "too early to say. takes a while to integrate a half into the squad. Personally I'd stick with kearney for leeds and wigan games then bring him in. But if he goes well in training and remaining friendlies then who knows.'"


My thoughts exactly. Ease him in against Crusaders.

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Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "My thoughts exactly. Ease him in against Crusaders.'"

Lets not disrespect them, we don't want another embarassment like Murrayfield icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Lets not disrespect them, we don't want another embarassment like Murrayfield
I meant that it's going to be easier physically and mentally on the kid unlike big names like Leeds and Wigan.

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Quote: sgtwilko "So does Briggs play against Leeds then or what?'"

Yes! First game, second game or third game he is still going to have to do it.

I say let him play 

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Quote: mat "I'd give him a couple of games in reserves purely to give him time to learn our plays without the added pressure of being in spotlight against leeds and wigan. Dont agree that he needs time to get his fitness upto superleague levels as I'd say championship first team is already a higher level than our u20's otherwise why do we send our better u20's out on loan to championship teams. IF he fits in well in friendlies then obviously throw him in at cardiff, but we've a lot off new players to integrate already and kearney and herbert have a month or two advantage over kyle in terms of getting a combination going.'"


i wouldn't say that fitness would be the main reason for sending U20's on loan. there's a lot of experience in that league and it's a good way to get your younger players to tap into that game day pressure that they wouldn't get in the same way at U20 level.

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Some people are suggesting he would have to adapt to full time training and moves.

1) Kyle Briggs last season was a full time member of the club
2) A vast majority of RL clubs use the same moves (just some are better organised)

Also Kyle has played in numerous high profile games with Featherstone including a leading role against Warrington earlier in 2010.

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Our first game is against the previous champions at a showpiece event, our second game is against the current champions. If Briggs [ihad [/ito play I'm sure he could, I saw enough of him last year to know he's a good player.

My point is he doesn't [ihave [/ito, we have other options that have been through more of our pre season, so I personally wouldn't plan on putting him in for those games and would spend more time getting him ready,... unless its very clear during training and the next couple of friendlies that he's ready, I'll trust Potters call on that, if he thinks he's good to go then great, I'm just saying what I'd do at this moment...I'll see how he goes in the friendlies first hand before I change my view.

An excellent signing though and I'm looking forward to seeing how he goes.

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