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Regarding the linesmen....

I don't know the bloke's name, but you know the old fella with the grey hair that everyone recognises? Does he touch judge every single match? Does he have some sort of magical device that allows him to be in four places at once, or is he actually one of quadruplets? I'm not sure I've ever seen a game of RL where that bloke hasn't been the touch judge!

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Quote: Mick Gledhill "With us needing a 10,000 crowd every home game, just to break even.

Which isn't going to happen, then the reported 23k we are losing for every home (except Leeds & St Helens to date) isn't doing any good and I fear for what the future holds.

Yesterday on the popular side, people were saying a move to Valley Parade for next year is in the pipeline which in my opinion would kill the club dead.

I think everyone knows we don't have a sugar daddy like Wigan, Warrington, Huddersfield, Hull KR etc who will underwrite the losses year on year.

Sport must be the only business where they expect their customers to keep buying the product off them even if the quality of the product is poor.

Any other business would go to the wall if they allowed themselves to be run the way the Bulls were in the last four years.

Yes, most supporters do go through thick and thin but others don’t as they have other things in their life.

I can’t imagine not looking forward to the Bulls games as it gets me through the tedium of work. We can’t slag others off though for not paying large sums for poor entertainment. It is up to all clubs to make the “whole package” worth paying for and not simply relying on supporters blindly turning up each week.

When considering the product on the field at Odsal (I include yesterdays horror show as a prime example) which is very much hit & miss this season, then add £18 to watch it in a stadium with no roof over 70% of it's total capacity.

We did well to get over 8,000 in yesterday I think, but it's still 1800 short of the 10,000 break even figure.'"


Don't sweat it Mick. So long as you keep doing your bit. There's very little else you can do.

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As a Giants supporter, l can tell you that a lot of fans you have lost will have gone forever, In the good old days for "you" the bad old days for "us" the bulls reps were all over Huddersfield schools tempting the kids with goodie bags and tickets, plus offering the razzmatazz, and of co you had success. All over Hudds and surrounding towns/villages you could see Bulls stickers.
It should come as no surprise that with the demise of the Bulls and the rise of the Giants that the support base has changed. You are all l,m sure aware that the Giants have worked very hard on, and especially off the field to win back their own people. lt has been a long hard road, l am not gloating, these are facts that will account for a lot of your missing support, there are still a lot of floaters out there, all those small towns and villages twix Bulls and Giants terratory, but the stickers are changing.

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Quote: boomer "As a Giants supporter, l can tell you that a lot of fans you have lost will have gone forever, In the good old days for "you" the bad old days for "us" the bulls reps were all over Huddersfield schools tempting the kids with goodie bags and tickets, plus offering the razzmatazz, and of co you had success. All over Hudds and surrounding towns/villages you could see Bulls stickers.
It should come as no surprise that with the demise of the Bulls and the rise of the Giants that the support base has changed. You are all l,m sure aware that the Giants have worked very hard on, and especially off the field to win back their own people. lt has been a long hard road, l am not gloating, these are facts that will account for a lot of your missing support, there are still a lot of floaters out there, all those small towns and villages twix Bulls and Giants terratory, but the stickers are changing.'"

be interesting if they all stick to giants once cheap season ticket offers are stopped though.

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Quote: Mick Gledhill "micks usual regurgitated post.'"

do we really need to have this post or something very similar regurgitated after every game we lose mick? Everyone fully aware off the financial problems and implications of the poor attendances. You spreading doom and gloom does nothing to help. If you've got positive suggestions fair enough but the constant restating of the situation doesnt help anyone.

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Quote: boomer "As a Giants supporter, l can tell you that a lot of fans you have lost will have gone forever, In the good old days for "you" the bad old days for "us" the bulls reps were all over Huddersfield schools tempting the kids with goodie bags and tickets, plus offering the razzmatazz, and of co you had success. All over Hudds and surrounding towns/villages you could see Bulls stickers.
It should come as no surprise that with the demise of the Bulls and the rise of the Giants that the support base has changed. You are all l,m sure aware that the Giants have worked very hard on, and especially off the field to win back their own people. lt has been a long hard road, l am not gloating, these are facts that will account for a lot of your missing support, there are still a lot of floaters out there, all those small towns and villages twix Bulls and Giants terratory, but the stickers are changing.'"

But the thing to remember is that everybody seems to think we always had large crowds and that is simply not true. Before Peter Deakin and Brian Smith the support was fairly dire and I think Mr Deakin in particular would have loved to have started from a 9000 average.

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First home average for SL was only just over ten k, including big gates for Fax, Wigan and Saints.

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Half the teams in SL operate on <9k. A number with far worse grounds, IMO, than Odsal which I have always liked. Nor do they all have a sugar daddy. Which might be an indication of the parlous state of RL.

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Quote: tigertot "Half the teams in SL operate on <9k. A number with far worse grounds, IMO, than Odsal which I have always liked. Nor do they all have a sugar daddy. Which might be an indication of the parlous state of RL.'"


The bottom half of the table at a guess?

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Quote: debaser "The bottom half of the table at a guess?'"


with exception of hudds everyone above us has a higher average home crowd and everyone below has a lower home crowd so far this year. maybe some correlation there between spending power of club on salary cap (due to both crowds and backers) and league position?

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Quote: mat "with exception of hudds everyone above us has a higher average home crowd and everyone below has a lower home crowd so far this year. maybe some correlation there between spending power of club on salary cap (due to both crowds and backers) and league position?'"


Huddersfield has poor crowds? I'm shocked. icon_eek.gif

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Quote: mat "do we really need to have this post or something very similar regurgitated after every game we lose mick? Everyone fully aware off the financial problems and implications of the poor attendances. You spreading doom and gloom does nothing to help. If you've got positive suggestions fair enough but the constant restating of the situation doesnt help anyone.'"


You make it out as if I start these threads every week?

How can I be positive after a game like Sundays?

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Quote: Bullseye "Don't sweat it Mick. So long as you keep doing your bit. There's very little else you can do.'"


I'll be there every week, but if this Millward rumour is true I won't.

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Mick, what would you do if the board appointed Albert Postlethwaite, the octogenarian coach of Eckythump Rangers ARLFC?

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Quote: Adeybull "Mick, what would you do if the board appointed Albert Postlethwaite, the octogenarian coach of Eckythump Rangers ARLFC?'"


It's cool, I'll go if Millward gets the job. You have won me around.

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