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| Quote: Bulliac "I think we're missing something by obsessing with the points, to be honest. It's clearly more than the six points and I'd guess they club feel they have, maybe, been financially disadvantaged by all this. It's hard to think that they haven't been, when you think it through.
At the end of the day it's not just the Bulls, I'm sure Mr Carter at Wakefield was quite caustic in his opinion of the 'help' [ihis[/i club received at the hands of the RFL, mentioning "threats" IIRC. Let's hope Ryan Whitcut's observations on how the ruling body conducted itself are put to the test in a court of law.'"
If we had not already made a total mess of our finances you maybe could argue that but the club was clearly the main culprit in it's financial problems - both times. And I cannot say I would personally give any credence to statements from RW, who after all is not a fit and proper person to own a RL club.
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| Quote: HalifaxCougar "So what your saying if the bulls win the appeal then, you feel they should not be send to the championship and remain in superleague no matter how many points behind they are?'"
Yes, yes, that is exactly what he said. As clear as day.
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| Quote: HalifaxCougar "So what your saying if the bulls win the appeal then, you feel they should not be send to the championship and remain in superleague no matter how many points behind they are?'"
What I'm saying is that everyone concerned will have to abide by the verdict handed down in court [or challenge it, of course, since there is a long and involved back story to all this]. Do I think the court would try to micro manage rugby league? No, not at all, I expect any judgement to be financial in nature, so I'm still holding out for, and looking forward to, my journey to Cougar Park.
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| Does this mean the hearing report thingy has been given to Bradford? I hope we get a nosey.
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| Quote: Northernrelic "If we had not already made a total mess of our finances you maybe could argue that but the club was clearly the main culprit in it's financial problems - both times. And I cannot say I would personally give any credence to statements from RW, who after all is not a fit and proper person to own a RL club.'"
No, the Bulls management over recent years has been deplorable. I meant purely any consequential damages caused by their ruling.
Incidentally, I hold no brief for Whitcut, but his allegations have been in the public domain for a while now and there has been no indication in the press, which repeated the allegations, that there has been any attempt at legal action against him. From which, we can draw what conclusions we wish, I guess.
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| I think it's only fair to point out that, as this is now going to court, it will presumably be covered by the sub judice ruling and we should all be a bit careful how we comment until the case is resolved.
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| Quote: Bulliac "I think it's only fair to point out that, as this is now going to court, it will presumably be covered by the sub judice ruling and we should all be a bit careful how we comment until the case is resolved.'"
You should have pointed that out to our PM a few days ago
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| Quote: Bulliac "What I'm saying is that everyone concerned will have to abide by the verdict handed down in court [or challenge it, of course, since there is a long and involved back story to all this]. Do I think the court would try to micro manage rugby league? No, not at all, I expect any judgement to be financial in nature, so I'm still holding out for, and looking forward to, my journey to Cougar Park.'"
Thanks for clearing that up. As for your other 3 defenders then let the guy speak and stop jumping the gun.
Welcome to the championship and do you think you will remain at Odsal or play at somewhere like park avenue?
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| Quote: debaser "Maybe the "wider game" will appreciate us getting to the bottom of it all so that they will know whether the RFL can be trusted or not. It may well have implications for other clubs if they head into admin in the future.'"
Here here!!
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| I suppose that the actual appeal is more about the justice aspect than the points.
The return of points might add to our overall results in a more positive light, but realistically will it make any difference.
However when you consider the underhand way the whole scenario has unfolded, the credibility of the ruling body is questionable:
for example have a look at this from 2006 when the RFL appointed the solicitors that headed up the independent appeal pan, the main judges 2/3rd of them worked for the RFL or were well attached to them...call that independent?
CONTRIBUTED BY PINSENT MASONS
MARCH 2006
The RFL - the governing body of Rugby League in the UK - has appointed two new firms to its legal panel in place of its previous advisers.
Following an extensive process, in which leading law firms were invited to tender for the business, the RFL has split its requirements into two separate areas.
Pinsent Masons have been awarded the general legal package which includes property law, employment law and general litigation.
London based firm Farrer & Co has been awarded the sports law package, covering areas such as sponsorship, intellectual property, company law and governance, disciplinary matters and anti-doping regulations.
�Pinsent Masons clearly has the technical ability to advise the RFL and their case management systems suggested a positive difference for clients compared to the traditional method of legal work. We were impressed with their existing local and national business links. They also showed a real keenness to act for the RFL�.
Lead Partner for the RFL and Head of the Leeds office at Pinsent Masons, Nigel McClea commented: �The whole firm is delighted. Whilst our Leeds and Manchester offices are at the heartland of Rugby League, the enthusiasm at our appointment expressed by our other national and international offices has been exceptional.
�We look forward to an exhilarating partnership with the RFL - not only as their legal advisers but as enthusiastic supporters of their forward strategy'.
Makes you wonder doesn't it particularly in light of the verdict?
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| Quote: IncrediBULL "Then Green gets his money back........'"
If he's only interested in his cash - this is the last thing I would have expected him to do
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| Quote: Bulliac "Incidentally, I hold no brief for Whitcut, but his allegations have been in the public domain for a while now and there has been no indication in the press, which repeated the allegations, that there has been any attempt at legal action against him. From which, we can draw what conclusions we wish, I guess.'"
I don't think I have heard so many references to lawyers since good old Robert Maxwell's time - and we know who was the guilty party there, despite his little army of m'learned friends. But in the situation you mention above why sue someone who you cannot hope to recover anything from?
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| Quote: Northernrelic "Maybe the strategy is to p**s off all the other league clubs, and the rfl, appoint a RU coach then go over to the "dark side" - the horror!'"
I'm off to buy a pair of those loafers that are made out of what looks like wicker and you wear without socks.
Pastelle coloured sweater over my shoulders with the sleeves tied in a knot at the front.
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| Question for FA...
If the case goes to the High Court - Does the hearing conclude in an open public court, where maybe the rafters could be filled with sports journalists waiting to type the claims made against the RFL in their next newspaper/magazine addition?
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "I'm off to buy a pair of those loafers that are made out of what looks like wicker and you wear without socks.
Pastelle coloured sweater over my shoulders with the sleeves tied in a knot at the front.'"
I am about to open a shop on eBay caterilng specifically for Bulls fans, specialising in bespoke hair shirts
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