Though turning over rocks might be interesting to geologists just looks like an expensive distraction from the main priority which should be rebuilding the club. So while we see in the news other clubs lining up their squads for 2015 we are lining up some lawyers! Bad move

A few nervous people now who have posted on the "If we avoid relegation I will..." thread I should imagine.

Especially ME, who may have to get his wallet out...

Maybe it's not just about the 6 points. Maybe we will argue that the RFL's conduct was such that it caused the collapse of our team and thus our season, and argue that in those circumstances it would be unjust to be relegated. Of course that would almost certainly mean only one team going down as if we won the case, the RFL could hardly pick the next team up. So the case could royally screw the RFL's plans for 2015>

As other clubs in super league and the championship are getting their squads in shape for next season,what on earth can we be doing. How can we attempt to sign any players,do we offer championship or super league contracts

Maybe the strategy is to p**s off all the other league clubs, and the rfl, appoint a RU coach then go over to the "dark side" - the horror!

I don't say this often to opposition fans but I genuinely feel sorry for you lot, though not your appalling management - this latest turn must be agonising.

Must point out that I don't have any insider knowledge but as far as I'm concerned the Bulls management (whichever version) signed up for SL on the understanding that the RFL was the governing body and there final decision was just that. Right or wrong Green should respect that and I don't doubt there may be some wrong in it. I can also understand why some Bulls fans will applaud this appeal should it ever happen, I'd probably feel the same if I were a Bulls fan.

However it will cost a fortune, would not be settled any time soon and should it be successful would then be met with a counter claim from any other team it affected. Hence a stalemate and any good will the Bulls may still have lost forever.

Cas went down twice and took it on the chin, one time very unfairly and look at them now. I don't think you would stay in Div 1 for more than a season tbh so why this end of the world mentality from Green I'm not sure.

It's easy for me to say and obviously suits my club so I'm sure I sound patronising but perhaps it's now time to regroup and rebuild and perhaps look for support from fellow clubs before the club (not you lot) alienate yourselves. I hope you're put out of your misery sooner rather than later. At least if your relegated you know were you stand and can start to move forward again at last.

Here's a quick shot I took of the road between Odsal and Red Hall this morning




Vastman and others - write to Mr. Green at Odsal. We're just bystanders in all this. Urging us to do this, or not do that, is a waste of your time.

I think we're missing something by obsessing with the points, to be honest. It's clearly more than the six points and I'd guess they club feel they have, maybe, been financially disadvantaged by all this. It's hard to think that they haven't been, when you think it through.

At the end of the day it's not just the Bulls, I'm sure Mr Carter at Wakefield was quite caustic in his opinion of the 'help' [ihis[/i club received at the hands of the RFL, mentioning "threats" IIRC. Let's hope Ryan Whitcut's observations on how the ruling body conducted itself are put to the test in a court of law.

So what your saying if the bulls win the appeal then, you feel they should not be send to the championship and remain in superleague no matter how many points behind they are?

There's only 3 groups of people that can have influence over the future of Bradford Bulls.

1 - the RFL. And they're not going to look favourably on this development.
2 - the fans. We just need to maintain support.
3 - the other 13 SL club chairmen. Are we a "stalking horse" on their behalf?

Very good, but you know exactly what he was saying, so why try to make a straw man out of it? Until we and you learn the actual grounds of the application to the court, and exactly what is alleged, and what remedies are sought, who can say? How can he or anyone comment on what should happen if the Bulls "win the appeal", before anyone knows what the argument is that we are putting up?

Have you actually read what he put. Because no where has he said, or even suggested we should stay up if we finish on lowest points.

He said the board must feel they is more to it than points appeal. How on earth you can twist it to him
Saying "we should stay in SL even if we finish on lowest amount of points"

sporting sanctions appeal cost £5k. It was mentioned in one of articles when result was announced. High court action , if it happens, would be an order of magnitude higher i'd imagine.

few points to consider. Firstly high court will listen to any relevent evidence. they wont have to stay within frames of reference set by the RFL as the sporting sanctions panel was. If I understand comments Greens made in press re that appeal then they didnt actually look at evidence we provided as it was outside their frames of reference. This is why they kepp saying they were unable to FULLY consider our case.

Secondly Greens left himself a get out clause, in that he could drop the action if he decides its no longer in interests of the club. Cynical part of me thinks he'll keep action going til end of season, but stalling so it doesnt progress to point where it costs serious money, thus keeping slim possibility of avoiding relegation alive. This coupled with new coach should help to keep pay on the gate support coming for remainder of season. Once season ends and theres no more potential for money coming through gates he decides its no longer in interests of club and drops the action before it gets to the court.

Finally if we do have a strong case and win,and somehow get within 6 points of survival, I fully expect RFL to instantly slap a six point penalty on us for bringing game into disrepute and we go down anyway. Only positive outcome could be we force some resignations at red hall. I think this is what Green is refering to with comments about the good of the game.

I presume the whole thing will have to begin with a letter before action to the RFL. Now [ithat[/i would be instructive.


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