If you dropped a ref whenever he makes a mistake that costs a try, there would be literally no refs available each week.

The same formula applies to players, incidentally.

thought someone else went fulltime when smith moved to coaching side tbh keeping us at 7. Still think 7 is too small a number of fulltime officials though.

We are not saying for one mistake, we are meaning an overall poor refereeing performance. At the minute our ref's have no accountability for poor performance.

These are the fulltime refs.
Thierry Alibert
Phil Bentham
James Child
Steve Ganson
Richard Silverwood
Ben Thaler

I was thinking hewer (sp) had gone fulltime as well. The justification at the time they introduced fulltime refs was to improve standards. The RFL seem very reluctant to drop any of the fulltime officials,barring injury, when there performances are poor. As long as there arent more fulltime refs than fixtures each week then the same group are going to be effectively guaranteed a game irrespective of their perfomance the previous week. Can only think of a handful of occasions over last few years where a fulltime ref has been dropped down to championship games (not that I'd wish some of performances we saw over weekend on the championship fans).

Who is SP?

means I'm not sure of the spelling of the word/name immediately preceeding it mick.

The best point made in this thread is that about using the injustice as motivation

Fortunately, in Mick Potter we now have a coach who is intelligent enough to do just that. I expect him to have a video made of the all the various questionable decisions, for team talks later in the week

Totally agree with this, we shouldn't have been in a position to worry about 50/50 decisions after building up the lead. Bit of composure and tighter play could have seen us home.

But there is a big difference between an honest mistake and incompetence. I haven't replayed and won't be replaying the Buderus incident, as our game has gone and I've said my bit; but in ANY televised game, IF it is correct that a player in a VR call did get involved in the play after starting blatantly offside and the Video Ref missed it, then that's actually a huge error by the VR. If I were Cummings, I would think such incompetence was on the inexcusable side of slack.

I can't seem to find the thread asking where Leeds' goal line drop out was when Kearney was clearly tackled behind the line? Which is also clearly visible on video evidence. Or are we only picking up on ref errors that didn't go in your favour?

Funny that.

I missed the one where Royston was taken out in exactly the same vein to BJB by Brett Delaney, resulting in a totally different outcome.

The point made at the start of this thread is a perfectly valid one, it was an enormous thing to miss from the officials, especially with the facility of the VR being available for usage. I for one aren't saying it cost us the game blah blah, I don't think it did, but these kinds of things should not be missed.

Was the VR asked to look at it? No?
Think the point is that the VR was asked to look at the legality of the Leeds try, he totally failed to spot the infringement by Buderus. He could have taken as long as he liked to look at it to check he got it right. He took enough time to make up...er...see Walker's knock on so there should be no excuse for getting this one wrong too. So an error by the VR. Not a "real time mistake" by the ref.