Sam is definitely significantly below his best form, but I don't think there's anything wrong with him, the problem is he is part of a team which most of the time is well below par and on too many occasions performs as abysmally as last night, it is exceptionally difficult to look good in a team which is getting whupped and constantly on the back foot.

You fearing Stuart Fielden burn out?

When he gets the ball you can see a look of confusion on his face and a moment of hesitation. I'm sure he's thinking along the lines "Am I playing prop and should be making hard yards, or am I playing LF and should be running wide?" He ends up doing neither.

I can't explain the transformation in Fielden, but no, not at all. Burgess has an outstanding career ahead of him, of that I've no doubt.

cba starting a new thread but matt cook was a bit last night.

Shut up soft lad.

He is burnt out simple as. I'm not doubting his ability in the slightest but he has played too much rugby at too young an age and on top of that has had to overcome a major close season operation.

Burnt out? He's played only 15 or so games in 6 months, dont talk silly.

I dont think he has the bottle to step up to play in a struggling side. He looks good when we're doing alright but looks poor when the rest of the team are struggling. We miss Morrison in that situation

He's still only a kid and is lacking experience. I'm not sure he's being given clear instructions on what to do on the field because he seems to look lost at times.

Hmm I wonder who's job that is. I've always said he's a better prop forward than a 13. When he plays 13 he tries to be something he isn't so in the end he doesn't do anything.

Well pretty much everyone else can. He's burned out after flogging himself to death without taking enough breaks during games when he was with the Bulls.

Burgess, it's too early to say although there's a lingering concern that his shoulder injury may have an impact on him.

Yep. And Dave Halley proved that he definitely is NOT a Full Back

How by letting a rampaging adrian morley run straight over him..erm no hes giving away 5 stone yet still brought him down..he went up to try and help his winger out who ran straight round sherriffe..riley had a choice either try and go round halley or chip and regather which meant halley had to turn and start running from a standing start..riley had the momentum and ran hard and straight..none of tries last night were halleys fault, how many could be accosted to sheerriffe gaffe, platt the missed tackle king, or semi god.

He's looking bad because of the team he's playing in, when you look at the stats it's not that bad.


Sam Burgess
Apps 7
Metres 934
Carries 139
Tackles 182
Offloads 9
Tackle busts 13
Clean Breaks 2




When you compare that with most forwards in the league thats not at all bad, especially given his age. Imo we shouldn't be criticizing Burgess when he's been one of our better and consistent performers. Remember he's still young and learning.