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| Quote ="mat"Would whitehead be covered by the mandatory payment system for players who come through a clubs academy but leave before age 24 despite club wanting to keep them?. Not sure if it applies if a player leaves mid contract rather than refusing a new deal, but if it does apply then we get something like 5k a year for every year since he signed his first professional contract. So that would mean a mandatory minimum transfer fee of 40kish, unless he's prepared to sit on sidelines until he turns 24 in September.'"
If he holds firm to his stated intention of signing for a 'top four' club, he's pretty likely to be sitting on the sidelines until September anyway as I doubt any would have the space under the cap to sign him before the end of the season, even assuming they wished to do so. Unless he [ihas[/i been tapped up, of course, and the tapper has already 'made arrangements' to lose someone from their cap? If the one they wish to lose is a prop, maybe we can do a deal!!
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| I'm a mate of Elliotts,but I would be very very surprised if any of the current top 4 clubs would be interested in him
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| By the timing of his announcement, and the words used in the press, it sounds like Whitehead already has a club to move to.
The fact that he states a top 4 club is the biggest clue to this. Without a club lined up, this comment would be ridiculous as it basically puts off all other suitors.
By my guessing, he's already been in contact with a 'Top 4' club and his terms have already been agreed. The transfer request is just a means to push this move through. If I had to guess his destination, I would say the club that has made contact is either Leeds or Huddersfield, and based on previous rumours, I would most likely go with Leeds.
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| I think you will find Eliot already has a deal lined up.
Look how many tries he's scored as a forward in a poor team.In a good team he'll be a top scoring forward don't worry about that.He's scored tries a plenty throughout his career up to date.Hope he carries on coaching the youngsters at his former amateur club.
The question you should be asking is why he wants to leave his home town club.Why an investor pulled out after seeing something she didn't like?
Anyway,if the BULLS get a decent fee many on here will be glad to see the back of Eliot as they don't seem to get him at all.So WIN WIN for them,YES?
Cummins?Can he inspire?Can he improve players to play above themselves?Can he bring young talent through?Those are the questions on my mind right now.Eliot wants to leave---not a good start imo.Bateman next?Don't rule it out.
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| I've not given up on FC yet. He had one of the hardest tasks this year, and he's just gone through the toughest part of the fixture list. A decent win (hopefully at Saints) will get the confidence back up and we should see the team competing again.
I'm not classing FC a Mcnamara yet.
As for why he wants to leave, I'm not overly convinced with some of the things I've seen by the management at Odsal, but I suppose they are still learning how to run a RL club. There does seem to be a few 'distractions' coming from the actions of the board members, but without full knowledge of what is going on, I don't think it would be fair of me to criticise.
I suppose only time will tell how good of an owner OK will be for the Bulls
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| Quick question, would a transfer fee count on a potential club's salary cap or is it just wages ?? Thanks
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| Quote ="staffbull1973"Quick question, would a transfer fee count on a potential club's salary cap or is it just wages ?? Thanks'"
Just wages to the best of my knowledge.
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| I'm thinking it counts,could be wrong,if I'm wrong it probably doesn't count
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| Quote ="madasmcmadammcmad2"
The question you should be asking is why he wants to leave his home town club.Why an investor pulled out after seeing something she didn't like?
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I have previously, on here, stated that I am far from convinced about the new regime, but was quickly shot down in flames.
The new regime worries me, especially given that certain figures from the past still seem to be taking a wage for not a lot.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I have previously, on here, stated that I am far from convinced about the new regime, but was quickly shot down in flames.
The new regime worries me, especially given that certain figures from the past still seem to be taking a wage for not a lot.'"
Who? We are not still paying Iestyn are we?
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| We could do with a director of Rugby some one who has been there and done it before, to help the owners and also FC
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| Quote ="broadybull87"We could do with a director of Rugby some one who has been there and done it before, to help the owners and also FC'"
We have no money. 
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| Transfers fees absolutely do not count on the SC. Hence it being called a SALARY cap.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I have previously, on here, stated that I am far from convinced about the new regime, but was quickly shot down in flames.
The new regime worries me, especially given that certain figures from the past still seem to be taking a wage for not a lot.'"
Your not alone about being concerned about OK, the politician and the politicians office manager....... and the others up there "running" the show.
FC is doing a good job in the circumstances, I think some need to cut him some slack at the end of the day he isn't missing the tackles nor dropping the ball.... professional rugby players should do the basics right 
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| Quote ="broadybull87"We could do with a director of Rugby some one who has been there and done it before, to help the owners and also FC'"
Someone like Brian Noble?
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| Would have been great yeah, whats he doing now 
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I have previously, on here, stated that I am far from convinced about the new regime, but was quickly shot down in flames.
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Don't be such a whingeing macaroon, you weren't "shot down" in any shape or form on that point, it was just pointed out to you that it didn't actually matter whatsoever, because OK was 9and is) the only game in town, so how convinced you are isn't really relevant. At least when you were whining on about a previous coach, the club always had the option to get rid and bring in someone else, so however mistaken you were (IIRC he was so good, he got promoted to the England job  ) but there is no such option. It's a bit like saying you're far from convinced about your asshole. So what? What ya gonna do?
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I have previously, on here, stated that I am far from convinced about the new regime, but was quickly shot down in flames.
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不要被這樣一個whingeing的馬卡龍,你被“擊落”在任何形狀或形式,在這一點上,它只是指出你認為它實際上沒有任何關係,因為確定是()鎮上唯一的遊戲,因此如何說服你是不是真的有關。至少當你被嗚嗚關於以前的教練,俱樂部總是有選項去掉,並把在別人,所以無論你誤(IIRC他是那麼好,他得到了晉升為英國工作icon_wink.gif)每一個選項,但這裡有沒有這樣的選擇。這是一個有點像說你遠離說服你的屁眼。還等什麼?雅怎麼辦?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Don't be such a whingeing macaroon, you weren't "shot down" in any shape or form on that point, it was just pointed out to you that it didn't actually matter whatsoever, because OK was (and is) the only game in town, so how convinced you are isn't really relevant. At least when you were whining on about a previous coach, the club always had the option to get rid and bring in someone else, so however mistaken you were (IIRC he was so good, he got promoted to the England job
) there was every option, but here there is no such option. It's a bit like saying you're far from convinced about your asshole. So what? What ya gonna do?'"
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"It was pi$h the first time. No need to repeat yourself.
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This, from the man whoo made the same post about McNamara twenty times a day for several years!
You couldnae mak et up.
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| Maybe McNamara could help as director of rugby don't think he is up to much at the moment
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| It could be entirly possible the new bunch won't take any crap, reason Wiley had a falling out and also why whitehead wants out, maybe they wanted something and the board wherent happy with it so told them where to go, especially his manager.
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"Maybe McNamara could help as director of rugby don't think he is up to much at the moment'"
Just preparing the national team for the World Cup hth.
I'd stick to worrying if this years slump has started after losing to Hull KR
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This, from the man whoo made the same post about McNamara twenty times a day for several years!
You couldnae mak et up.'"
Exactly we never had this when he was in charge every player wanted to play for him.
Burgess was in the paper every week pointing out how good a coach he was and it was the players' fault not his. He managed to get real talent into the club like World cup wining origin legend mr beaver, reigning Dally M winner Matt Orford, Country origin rep Glenn Morrison, England student international Mike Worrincy etc etc
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| Don't forget the outstanding Rikki Sheriffe and former England international Danny Sculthorpe 
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