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Does anyone on here know if club statistician/historian- Nigel Williams is still with us, & if so, how he might me contacted?

Thank you;

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I've been trying to track him down myself as I'm in the middle of updating club stats from 1989. Nobody at the club has any information about him. I had an address for him back in the 80s but suspect it's out of date.

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Quote: Bullseye "I've been trying to track him down myself as I'm in the middle of updating club stats from 1989. Nobody at the club has any information about him. I had an address for him back in the 80s but suspect it's out of date.'"


If it helps, I've updated all the Wikipedia pages for the Bulls from the 1996 season onwards and I'd go as far as saying all those years are very accurate for tries, goals, attendances, players, squad numbers etc.

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We need to talk icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Bullseye "We need to talk
Drop me a message pal icon_smile.gif What is it you want to chat about haha!

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Quote: Gram "Does anyone on here know if club statistician/historian- Nigel Williams is still with us, & if so, how he might me contacted?

Thank you;'"


The last time I spoke to Nigel would have been 2006/2007? Memory is a but hazy, but I'll try ask around for you.

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Some stats from the past can be found here: www.rugbyleagueproject.org/seaso ... mmary.html
Some stats from the past can be found here: www.rugbyleagueproject.org/seaso ... mmary.html


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Ok for SL stats but not pre SL.

For instance the Mumby stats for Bradford are way out. They should read as follows:

580 Appearances.
8 Substitute appearances.
84 Tries
779 Goals
0 Drop Goals
1828 Points.

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Quote: Bullseye "Ok for SL stats but not pre SL.

For instance the Mumby stats for Bradford are way out. They should read as follows

Where do you get all your data from pal? Was thinking about updating some of the player stats on Wikipedia but need a source.

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I use the definitive source - Bradford Northern - The History 1863-1989 by Nigel Williams. Nigel was the "guru" of the stats and the official club statistician for years. Unfortunately nobody at the club seems to know where he is now. We have his book which has stats on everything for that period.

I'm trying to get that down electronically and am working on adding stats the period where he left off until now and ongoing. It'd be good to get stuff on wikipedia updated for our players. I can provide the stats if you can be bothered updating them?

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Quote: Bullseye "I use the definitive source - Bradford Northern - The History 1863-1989 by Nigel Williams. Nigel was the "guru" of the stats and the official club statistician for years. Unfortunately nobody at the club seems to know where he is now. We have his book which has stats on everything for that period.

I'm trying to get that down electronically and am working on adding stats the period where he left off until now and ongoing. It'd be good to get stuff on wikipedia updated for our players. I can provide the stats if you can be bothered updating them?'"


Ah right. I'll have to figure out how to reference that properly on Wikipedia. Slightly different than my uni referencing haha! But yeah I don't mind, it will take time though icon_smile.gif But I don't mind having this as a side project for the season icon_smile.gif

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Great. I'll post the stats on the board. It can be a useful discussion thread too as all sorts comes up when you start to research them.

Anyway, that book doesn't have an ISBN. It was a very small print run in 1989. Nigel himself still holds copyright, so I'm not re-producing any of it anywhere. It is however a base point for ongoing stats.

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Dont know if im allowed to do this but this site has a every super league season from 97 except 2005 for some reason, in its archive files

www.rugby-league-world.com/archive.htm
Dont know if im allowed to do this but this site has a every super league season from 97 except 2005 for some reason, in its archive files

www.rugby-league-world.com/archive.htm


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Quote: Bullseye "Ok for SL stats but not pre SL.

For instance the Mumby stats for Bradford are way out. They should read as follows

There is a gap in the on-line stuff, at least, I haven't been able to fill it.

There are different ways of working too. Nigel never included 'friendly' games in his appearances whilst others, (particularly lately) seem to do. Nigel always considered 'substitute' or appearances from the bench, as a separate column in his lists, whist the more modern practice seems to be to include the full 17 as 'appearances'. With the older players you have to be careful about 3 and 4 point tries too, not to mention 2 point drop goals. all in all it is extremely difficult to compare older lists with the newer ones.

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Thankfully Nigel's book is very clear in the stats and takes into account the changes in points for tries and drop goals over the years.

He includes friendlies in his records of games played but they don't count as first class games.

The point about sub appearances is worth bearing in mind. Before thd game went 17 a side subs were seen as less important. That's changed a fair bit now.

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