Don't you start,ex Bulls fan

Well, the answer to the question does depend on other teams as much as it does on us.

If we lose tonight then we are stuck on 2 points with only 14 points left to play for - so the maximum we could possibly get is 16 (I'm ignoring the points appeal for the purposes of the thread)

Hull play Salford this weekend so those points have to go somewhere. If Hull win then thats them up to 17 and out of danger. If Salford win then thats them up to 15, and they and Hull can still technically caught by us.

So we move onto next weeks game against Huddersfield. If we lose that one, then we'll still be on 2, with only 12 points left to play for, and thus able to reach 14 points.

So if Salford have already beaten Hull this week OR win their game next week, they will be too far ahead for us to catch and we will be relegated by losing against Huddersfield.

Of course if we happen to pick up a win in the next two games it gets pushed back to the week after. A win tonight would probably see us relegated against Wigan on July 27th. Either way I think we'll be down before we go to Headingley, which some small mercy I suppose.

The sooner the better imo. Gives us more time to sort out the 2015 squad and give some of the younger players a few games (Brook, Mellor, Bates, Roberts etc.).

Couldn't agree more

I think we can discount a return of points. Although the courts can say that the RFL acted outside their own rules (and I am not saying that they will) but what they cannot do is make the RFL return any points. The most the club or Grren can hope for is that the case goes their way and they are then open for a damages suit. BUT NO POINTS RETURNED.

Well yes. We know. The point of the hearing is to get the appeal rules changed not to get the points back.

Apologies, my reference to the points appeal was tongue in cheek!

What is sobering is there are just three more home games now this year.

(Slightly OT and not that we'll get anywhere near them, but the underperforming Hull FC have a stinking run in too; Salford, Wigan, Castleford, St Helens, Bradford, Hull KR, Huddersfield and Leeds.)

Which is worse, relegated at Leeds or relegated at Huddersfield?!

Just 3 more? I may have to rethink, maybe there IS a God after all. Thank heaven for small mercies!

Not sure it matters, to be honest; just academic as everyone already knows we're down and the decent fans at both clubs would be sympathetic