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I don't think anyone doubts that he fell on the ball. I think the issue is that he'd already dropped it on to the ground before then.

Having said that, as it would have gone up as a "try", Lineham would have had to have lobbed into the back of the Saints fans for Joe Cobb to rule it out.

I really don't understand why Slugger is so adamant to convince anyone who will listen that it was a knock on... But, I would just like to know how from two real time replays from limited angles how anyone can be 100% certain he knocked it on. The pictures don't lie.

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I'm not adamant at all. I've no vested interest and in fact wanted Wire to win. I'm just expressing an opinion. I'm pretty sure that's what forums are for. That photo makes it less like a knock on, and it might be that he didn't. It looked like he'd fumbled it on the replays and that photo might be where he's regathered it as he goes over the line.

If you can, try and get an image of Gidley's ball on the line, because you might need photoshop for that one.

You know when you see a photo and one of the people in the shot have their eyes closed, well you're not gonna belief this but that doesn't mean they walk around with their eyes shut

A photo proves absolutely sod all.

Ive got one......but havent got the foggiest how to upload it Freeze it on the video on a certain site at 29.52

to be fair that image is superb and helps when watching the head on TV replay it gives you a clearer understanding of how Swift dislodges the ball and lineham cups the falling ball with his hand before it hits the ground he then grounds the ball and rolls over it. its a try any day of the week.
not once does swift knock that ball out of linehams hand onto the floor resulting in a lose carry knock on, or a one on one ball steal.....

its a TRY ........sorry but it is

people threatening never to watch the game again because they thought they've been robbed by a ref........lord almighty....

id have stopped in 83,89,94, most of the 00's and 2013.

If I was a Saints fan i would be much more angry asking why Thailer (who I like as a Ref) at a scrum went back and checked from the play the ball for a saints knock on when the set ended with saints kicking the ball into touch??? WTF! When did this become a thing??? This should be done everytime or not at all. If the play brakes down and it's a 50/50 on which team knocked on then of course they should check it. But what we had on Thursday was one team being unfairly scrutinised and not the other.

He checked EVERYTHING Warrington asked him to, he gave quite a few decisions purely on calls from Warrington players, like the ridiculous knock on call against Walmsley. Ratchford being told to stay down until the video ref overturned the referees decision was such poor refereeing as well. He also quite clearly saw the knock on in the build up to Ratchford's try, as he put his whistle to his mouth, stepped forward, then waved play on. I note he didn't then go back to check the decision once the try was scored.

Sky are also partly to blame. NOTHING should be on the big screen during the game other than TRY or NO TRY decisions, showing EXACTLY what the video ref sees. What happens now is players watch the footage, tell the ref he's got it wrong (When he often hasn't) and some refs ignore it and others bow to the pressure and overturn their calls. The crowd goes mental, baying for a decision for their side. There were seven replays of the tackle on Ratchford before the video ref was persuaded to change the decision. The video ref shouldn't be able to see the game live, he should get no feed other than the decision he's asked to adjudicate on, he shouldn't know the score or the context of the game either.

In other words, a ref who's clueless as to what's going on? Surely this is the rule rather than the exception?