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| OK I know its is Friday but I don't understand what the Sin Bin change means?
The Video Ref change is long overdue.
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| I seem to be in a minority on this, but I can't see any point in the video ref rule at all. What does it actually achieve? If anything, I think it's worse than the system we already have. With the old system, sending a decision to the video ref was a tacit admission by the referee that he didn't see what happened. As such, I think there was a built in deterrent (albeit a mild one) to going to the screen all the time - a referee who goes the screen for everything would basically be admitting that he doesn't know what he's doing.
The NRL system, on the other hand, gives the illusion that the referee is making a decision (let's face it, it is only an illusion - only in 'benefit of the doubt' situations does it carry any actual weight). But because the referee is seen to be making a decision then there is no 'shame' in going to the video ref (rather than it being an admission of ignorance, it's more like saying 'I did see it, and I know what I think, but I wouldn't mind a second opinion'). The result, if my experience of watching the NRL tells me anything, is that referees go to the video ref for pretty much every single try.
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| Hopefully this will do away with pathetic obstructions all the time.
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| Quote: Dux "I seem to be in a minority on this, but I can't see any point in the video ref rule at all. What does it actually achieve? If anything, I think it's worse than the system we already have. With the old system, sending a decision to the video ref was a tacit admission by the referee that he didn't see what happened. As such, I think there was a built in deterrent (albeit a mild one) to going to the screen all the time - a referee who goes the screen for everything would basically be admitting that he doesn't know what he's doing.
The NRL system, on the other hand, gives the illusion that the referee is making a decision (let's face it, it is only an illusion - only in 'benefit of the doubt' situations does it carry any actual weight). But because the referee is seen to be making a decision then there is no 'shame' in going to the video ref (rather than it being an admission of ignorance, it's more like saying 'I did see it, and I know what I think, but I wouldn't mind a second opinion'). The result, if my experience of watching the NRL tells me anything, is that referees go to the video ref for pretty much every single try.'"
You may be in a minority, but I'm in the same minority with you. Utterly pointless rule. If the video ref sees something which contradicts the on-field ref's indication, then it's the video ref who will have the final say. It would be bizarre to do otherwise. That is exactly the same as now. Strange and useless rule.
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| Quote: Dux "I seem to be in a minority on this, but I can't see any point in the video ref rule at all. What does it actually achieve? If anything, I think it's worse than the system we already have. With the old system, sending a decision to the video ref was a tacit admission by the referee that he didn't see what happened. As such, I think there was a built in deterrent (albeit a mild one) to going to the screen all the time - a referee who goes the screen for everything would basically be admitting that he doesn't know what he's doing.
The NRL system, on the other hand, gives the illusion that the referee is making a decision (let's face it, it is only an illusion - only in 'benefit of the doubt' situations does it carry any actual weight). But because the referee is seen to be making a decision then there is no 'shame' in going to the video ref (rather than it being an admission of ignorance, it's more like saying 'I did see it, and I know what I think, but I wouldn't mind a second opinion'). The result, if my experience of watching the NRL tells me anything, is that referees go to the video ref for pretty much every single try.'"
i think it replaces benefit of doubt decisions?
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| We should innovate again and make video referee decisions be decided by red button voting.
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| They all seem fairly reasonable.
Nothing too dramatic
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| Quote: Saddened! "We should innovate again and make video referee decisions be decided by red button voting.'"
There should be a phone number with extensions. Type the number and add 01 for try, add 02 for not try. Imagine the extra income the game could make.
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| Video red rule is pointless. If anything maybe puts pressure on video red to go with the decision made by the red Instead of just calling it from the footage.
Again just following the lead of NRL.
same with shoulder charge would should never have been banned in UK.
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61326_1313411800.jpg Friday 28th March, 2014, a day that will live in infamy...
[quote="Saddened!":fwnfr3rg]Whatever happens they have all been magnificent. Even Wello.[/quote:fwnfr3rg]
[quote="Saddened!":fwnfr3rg]Lance Hohaia can have my babies after that show[/quote:fwnfr3rg]
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "You may be in a minority, but I'm in the same minority with you. Utterly pointless rule. If the video ref sees something which contradicts the on-field ref's indication, then it's the video ref who will have the final say. It would be bizarre to do otherwise. That is exactly the same as now. Strange and useless rule.'"
To play devil's advocate, the video referee is only there at games shown on Sky. If a referee is unsure of a decision on a TV game he has the luxury of the video referee to make the decision for him. However, if the same incident from the same game wasn't shown on TV, the referee would be forced to make his own call...
By forcing the referee to make judgement first, it makes it more consistent across the board as the video referee is only able to go against the referees call if it can be clearly proven his decision is incorrect. It also means the referee still has a decision to make rather than taking the easy way out and handing things on to video red.
I personally think it's a good idea and will make it a lot more consistent (especially as video refs are only there at 2 games each week)
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| I'm going to agree here.
If the ref has to give an opinion then it will be easier to see those who get it wrong more often than they get it right.
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| The Aussies have had just as many issues with their referees and video refs, even with this rule.
The biggest problem for me has been the obstruction fiasco, so hopefully the change there will improve things.
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