ive just been looking up on the statistics on our 2006 team....we just about won everything that year..(teamwise and individual players and coach etc)...then we had to put up with a performance like last nights fiasco!.....surley they cant play any worse next week against the giants?....or can they?..

So many leaders on that pitch - who didn't just shout at team-mates, they led by example.

The tragedy of that era is that, for reasons of pure bad luck, we didn't win more before the rot set in.

There will be no silverwear hanging on next weeks game if Wakey finish the job for us this afternoon.

Anti climatic I know , but that can be the nature of the league sometimes.

That's how we treated Friday mate. The plan was treat it like a final and look what happened.

Well exactly. We lose finals! We shouldn't treat ANYTHING like it was a final. We might win it then!

The point I'm making is, we had the first chance In years to win something, it was the last game at home of the regular season and we turn out a performance like that. I'm not moaning at losing as that's part of the game but it's the way we lost in what was really a cup final for us.

Like I've said, the are to many players with no heart or desire for the shirt. Teams can usually carry 2/3 players like this but we are basically a squad of players that lack heart, desire and comitment.

I'd never call Tommy Mac for that woeful performance as I put that down to him having one of them games but certain players have those games every week and we can't afford to keep carrying them.

Exactly we can accept the loss but not the manner of performance. I,m not all that bothered now if we don,t achieve the LLS that should have been done last Thursday in front of our own fans with desire and effort, not surrendering to every aspect of the game.

That's why I believe getting to Old Trafford this season wouldn't benefit us on the field at all as we'd get snotted.