I would not say the display today was amateurish as it would be degrading to all the amateur rugby league players who give their all for the pride of their shirt. It is difficult for me to put into words how pathetic the Saints team played today as i have never seen so many so called talented players make so many basic errors. I think it was five or six consecutive plays where they gave wire a penalty in their on half, that is unforgivable at any level. How many missed tackles ? how many times was the ball given up ? how many wrong options ? why do they let themselves be bullied? this can only be put down to poor coaching. The saints were lost if they could not find Walsh and devoid of creative ideas. I could go on and on but I wont, I wonder what Eamons reaction will be. Personally I am losing the desire to watch such an under performing team.

blasé is the word I came up for it.

Doesn't even come close to describing how shameful that performance was.

As has been said, it comes from the top. We've shown we have the ability in winning our opening 8 games - including beating the media darlings of Leeds when we had half a team missing. Since then, we've gone backwards, with our coach constantly tinkering, and spouting crap about playing the wi*an scum being 'just another game'

Brown out.

Excellent was the word i was thinking of

I want Brown out but he touched on it in his interview. Attitude and the fact Wigan always bully us etc... So it needs to come from Mcmanus now. Do his best to find other clubs for Turner, LMS, Wilkin, Hohiah etc... When Wigan go through a bad spell they get rid, we award them with new contracts its pathetic

look at the passion Wane showed yesterday when they were beating Leeds.
Then look at how un moved Brown was tonight, does not give a ****

I'm not defending the way Brown has us performing, but I got the impression that he was fuming in the post match interview.

He looked like a man unable to motivate the players.

Exactly

I dont even mind us playing badly. it matters little at this time of the year, but he just shows no passion ever. Show us you care Mr Brown!!!

And there is the problem in a nutshell.

Lacking was my word.

I think Brown is in shock at how soft we are as a team.

And who's fault is that if not his????

Obviously the players.

It's all well and good blaming Brown but these players have no self pride. They don't care and that is down to the players soft attitude. Brown can only coach, train, do the tactics etc but if these players can't put it into place on the field is the players problem.

Some of these players can't tackle. They can't make one on one tackles which in the pro game is shocking.


It's time Brown put his foot down and binned some of these players. For example, I'm sure a month in Cumbria would do LMS the world of good. Bring him down to earth a little and show him how easy it is to fall into that divison.