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Interesting article in the MEN about Ashurst and Dixon, would they really have had an impact at Saints?


I doubt it. And don’t forget how much of their team has been taken up on defence while still being expected to run wide and support the three-quarters.

Just imagine how effective they would be if Salford dominated possession.

Saints must regret letting those two leave. "[i][/i[/i]

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I think they would have been very useful this season! Dixon was on fine form when dropped by Rush last year, having relatively little game time for the remainder of the season. He came on well under Simmons and it was a shame we let him go as I think he had a lot to offer. I was less sure of Ashurst but then he left a season earlier and so I've basically forgotten what he was like.

While I don't think Dixon is a world beater, he was for example our only try scorer in our 2010 abject failure grand final against Wigan and I've seen his enthusiastic follow up work for Salford, being jonny on the spot for some of their tries. I think he is their top tackler as well (although tbf that doesn't say much given their atrocious defending!).

Whether or not Saints regret letting them go is anyone's guess though.

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They have found their level at Salford. While both are good players and could have been good squad fodder, especially Ashurst, both are better off at Salford.

Given that we produce a lot of second rowers, our current ones being Greenwood, Walker, Thompson and soon Savelio, it is easy to see why Saints didn't break the bank to keep either of them. Can anyone remember either Dixon or Ashurst playing as well as Walker and Thompson currently are? The keeper in that generation of backrowers was Maggenis, but his knees put an end to what should have been a good career.

If there is a player I would have liked to keep it would have been Chris Dean as a second row. He has looked very good running in the middle of the field for Widnes with there being a number of parallels you can draw with Josh Jones who looks like a keeper.

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I would say that the simple answer to whether saints regret letting them go is NO! We have Thompson, Walker, Greenwood, Forster, Walmsley, Hand and Speakman all coming through into the first team and I suspect all will be better than both of those players.

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Don't think either of them ever did anything at Saints to justify being retained. Both are consistent Mike Bennett types that pad the squad out and do a decent job when called upon.

With the likes of Thompson, Walker, Greenwood and others coming through demanding game time, it would have been foolhardy to keep Ashurst and Dixon and stunted the development of the next generation coming through.

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Ashurst I'm not too bothered about, but Dixon was more than worth keeping.

Both are better than Anthony Laffranchi and we could have had both for his salary no doubt.

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I would have kept Dixon, but Ashurst wasn't worth keeping.

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Quote: Saddened! "Ashurst I'm not too bothered about, but Dixon was more than worth keeping.

Both are better than Anthony Laffranchi and we could have had both for his salary no doubt.'"


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They are both decent players but I can't say I've given either of them a moment's thought since they left.

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Quote: Dux "They are both decent players but I can't say I've given either of them a moment's thought since they left.'"


That's because you have had a lot more to worry about with the way the team have been playing!

Glad that Dixon and Ashurst are showing what they can do at Salford, at least with the new crop of youngster coming through Saints at the moment under Brown they are actually being given game time, in which I mean the number of minutes they are on the pitch per game rather than the number of games they have played. Dixon was only being played for 15 - 20 minutes a game under the old regime, not enough time I imagine for his development.

Martin Gleeson is full of praise for the duo as quoted in the MEN today[i
Gleeson has been impressed this term with the fine form of back-rower Andrew Dixon.
“Dixon impressed me from day one,” he said. “His work ethic is phenomenal along with his fitness. He and Matty Ashurst in the back row are top notch. I am enjoying having Dixon inside.
“He is making 50 tackles and backing this up with 20-plus hit-ups. He is a very good forward and very much an unsung hero.[/i

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Think Dixon had a bit more about him that Ashurst, but I wasn't too bothered when they left. There is far better at the club now.

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Quote: Zena "That's because you have had a lot more to worry about with the way the team have been playing!'"

Like I said, they're good players. But we're strong in the back row - we haven't really missed them and I don't think Saints will be regretting letting them go. Kyle Eastmond and James Graham, on the other hand ...

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Personally I would have kept hold of Dixon. Was really coming along well. From what I have seen of him at Salford this season he has impressed me. One that got away in my book.

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It s about what you gain or lose. Manu for Dixon. Flanagan for ashurst. In the end an improvement. You can't say Dixon for Perry. If we did not have Perry or lance it would not have saved Dixon or ashurst.

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Personally I would have kept Dixon and not signed Manu but thats my opinion

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