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| He has been a absolute fantastic servant for us over the years however this season his decision making has been terrible. Last night compounded this ripping the ball kicking out on the full twice!! Is it just me or has he been like this all season it could possibly be me being blinkered but i dont think it is. Defensively he is still up to it but i have a horrible feeling he could cost us in the play offs, its just an opinion!!
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| The ball steal was stupid (I seem to remember him doing the same thing at a crucial stage of last season's grand final as well), but the other things you mention are down to him being lumbered with responsibilities that he just isn't suited to. Wilkin is a handy option to have as a backup kicker, maybe for two to three kicks a game. He should not have to be depended upon as our main kicker.
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| Think his job role has been diluted with the abysmal performance of our half backs play. Wilkin an Wello are taking on extra responsibilties which they shouldn,t be doing, so I should imagine inconsistency will creep in.
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| But this is the basis of the issue. Wello and Wilkin are doing more and so getting flack for doing what should be done by the halves, because we are refusing to play proper halves.
Speaking purely on a practical level.
It's like hiring a plumber and then doing the job yourself as the plumber is actually an electrician.
Why are we making others do the job, get people in who can do the job.
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| Ill have all the above points but going forward he just seems to not give us as much going forward as he used to!! maybe as said the halves put pressure on him however he should still be better than this season as i say its just a opinion so feel free to tell me im wrong but i dont think i am!!
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| Quote: bewareshadows "But this is the basis of the issue. Wello and Wilkin are doing more and so getting flack for doing what should be done by the halves, because we are refusing to play proper halves.
Speaking purely on a practical level.
It's like hiring a plumber and then doing the job yourself as the plumber is actually an electrician.
Why are we making others do the job, get people in who can do the job.'"
Exactly, thats why I don,t crtiticise Wello and Wilkin as much, Wello hitting the attacking line and Wilkins kicking is inconsistent.
Wilkin does have a good high spiral bomb technique though, i,m suprised we,ve not used this a bit more, especially against the likes of Tomkins who doesn,t fancy this type of tactic.
Lance and Lomax as we know are very good players, but will probably be our downfall if we reach another grand final.......unless lady luck shows her hand.
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| The victory last night has probably masked what was Wilkins worst performance of the season. Taking on extra responsibilty is one thing, but making poor decision after poor decision over and over is not acceptable.
We had an extra man on the field for over an hour, but Wilkin was a liability.
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| Wilkin is having to do 2 jobs this season and his performances have suffered as a result - he's one of the best 2nd rowers in the league when allowed to just be one but playing half as well is just killing him.
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| I think it will be difficult to convince some fans on here that Wello and Wilkin are playing extensive roles, and are inheriting critism because of it, they are also the communicators in the team. Hopefully things will improve next season on all fronts, Wilkin dropping into loose forward with Manu and Soliola potentionally the best second rowers in superleague.
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| If Wilkin is to be considered a top 13, then he should have a kicking game. And to be fair, he has kicked pretty well this year, although his two out on the full last night were poor. It doesnt help that he isnt being played as a 13, more of a workhorse second rower, its hardly surprising his kicks are wayward when he is getting through a huge amount of defensive work.
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| Quote: Judder Man "Exactly, thats why I don,t crtiticise Wello and Wilkin as much, Wello hitting the attacking line and Wilkins kicking is inconsistent.
Wilkin does have a good high spiral bomb technique though, i,m suprised we,ve not used this a bit more, especially against the likes of Tomkins who doesn,t fancy this type of tactic.
Lance and Lomax as we know are very good players, but will probably be our downfall if we reach another grand final.......unless lady luck shows her hand.'"
Is there no apostrophe on your keyboard?
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| Quote: Harry Pinner "Is there no apostrophe on your keyboard?'"
Do you mean a diacritic mark as in A'P'O'S'T'R'O'P'H'E'
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