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Easy win..2nd nailed on..thanks very much.

Thought you looked average at best..clueless in attack.

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Very misleading scoreline.Outclassed for the large part of the game.One up rugby most of the time with no offloads(compare that to Warrington).Anyone thinking that Rush was good enough for the job only needs to look at that game.He should go back to what he did previously.6 and 7 might have well not turned up for the amount of impact they had.Lomax with and without ball is a liability.

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You need a stand off asap.

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Quote: Oxford Exile "You need a stand off asap.'"

We have one but he was dropped ages ago.

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Quote: Oxford Exile "You need a stand off asap.'"


and a scrum half,centre,winger etc etc

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Quote: Oxford Exile "Easy win..2nd nailed on..thanks very much.

Thought you looked average at best..clueless in attack.'"



Come on mate, win with class.

A very young saints team out there tonight. They're doing a very good job of staying competitive whilst making major changes each year. We're just a better team at the moment. Just 14 more years to go.

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You could have had Lockyer in his prime out there tonight and it wouldn't have made a scrap of difference. You were beaten up in the forwards from the very start. No go forward, no field position. The likes of Perry and Laffranchi along with the rest of your pack showed no aggression what so ever when taking the ball in or defending. You still miss Graham.


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Only telling it as it is.

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Quote: Wollyhood "A very young saints team out there tonight. '"

Were you watching the u20s? It's just that our first team isn't a young team. It was last season. But not this.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "You could have had Lockyer in his prime out there tonight and it wouldn't have made a scrap of difference. You were beaten up in the forwards from the very start. No go forward, no field position. The likes of Perry and Laffranchi along with the rest of your pack showed no aggression what so ever when taking the ball in or defending. You still miss Graham.


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I disagree, the forwards stood up quite well. They lack an offloading style which is disappointing, but the lack of go forward in the first 10 - 15 mins, was due to us having a lack of ball. That was caused by the 2 wings being complete liabilites tonight. When we did eventually get some ball, it became more of an attrition game from both sides.

Of course we miss Graham, take the best forward in SL out of anyside and they will miss him, but he had more to his game than go forward, he had an offload and a short passing game.

We were lucky to come so close at the end of the game, but it was really under Wires control as we could not give any ideas from the backs even with 10 minutes to go, we where still doing the same old thing, no trying anything different to force some ideas.

It's what Saints fans have said all year, that we lack a decent half with a good kicking game. Today both wingers had a shocker, you can live with one, but 2 is impossible, basically Briers could kick it where he liked and was certain we would fluff it.

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You failed to put briers under any pressure with his kicking tonight. He had all night to pick his kicks

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Quote: bewareshadows "I disagree, the forwards stood up quite well. They lack an offloading style which is disappointing, but the lack of go forward in the first 10 - 15 mins, was due to us having a lack of ball. That was caused by the 2 wings being complete liabilites tonight. When we did eventually get some ball, it became more of an attrition game from both sides.

Of course we miss Graham, take the best forward in SL out of anyside and they will miss him, but he had more to his game than go forward, he had an offload and a short passing game.

We were lucky to come so close at the end of the game, but it was really under Wires control as we could not give any ideas from the backs even with 10 minutes to go, we where still doing the same old thing, no trying anything different to force some ideas.

It's what Saints fans have said all year, that we lack a decent half with a good kicking game. Today both wingers had a shocker, you can live with one, but 2 is impossible, basically Briers could kick it where he liked and was certain we would fluff it.'"


Our pack was completey dominated. They made good yards and stopped us making any. They was by far better than our pack.

Laffranchi was stopped dead all night as he does against big physical packs, Perry went ok but far to quite, TP was complete waste of space, flannery was rubbish and wilkin tackled well but rubbish with the ball.

Robes gave his all but unless we get quick play the balls hes stuffed.

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Saint's resurgence after the twenty minute mark came about because of the indiscipline from Wire. Not because your forwards finally got on top.

You were constantly being held to a 30 - 35 meter gain each and every time. Were your kicking game better you may have been able to negate that.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Saint's resurgence after the twenty minute mark came about because of the indiscipline from Wire. Not because your forwards finally got on top.

You were constantly being held to a 30 - 35 meter gain each and every time. Were your kicking game better you may have been able to negate that.'"



You could say the same for wolves in the first 15 mins, they got few pens and saints mistakes give them the front foot.

We depend on pens in big games as we've got no brains in the team, we will just do one up rugby all night and if that doesn't work we just carry on playing one man rugby or do the odd poor kick.

I'm not just saying this but I've not seen a worse kicking than the one we've had this year, it's been totally shocking.

What I'd give for lee briers to come back!

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Saint's resurgence after the twenty minute mark came about because of the indiscipline from Wire. Not because your forwards finally got on top.

You were constantly being held to a 30 - 35 meter gain each and every time. Were your kicking game better you may have been able to negate that.'"



I agree with the kicking game, it's something that we have decided to sacrifice to try and develop this partnership at half back and most weeks we can do without a kicking game, but in a tough game, your kickers need to be able to turn the game around for you and give you a chance. Although with Makinson and Meli gifting the ball back to Wire, the repeat sets were also a killer.

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