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| Hock charged - 1/2 matches
Mossop charged - 1/2 matches
Tuson charged - 2/3 matches
Magennis charged - 3/5 matches
LMS not charged
McIllorum wasn't even cited for his tackle post-brawl and neither was Wilkin for his spate of petulant high shots. Like I said in the Magennis thread, I think McIllorum not being charged is more to do with not banning 4 players from the same team, he does that any other week and he'd have been banned.
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| Wilkin was embrassing yesterday
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| I don't think they've done too bad a job, but I think Hock deserves a bit more. He caused the whole thing and I don't see why he shouldn't be aligned with Magennis. He threw punches for absolutely no reason as well and caused the initial incident with his messing about with head positions with LMS and his raising his head into LMS.
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| Quote: Saddened! "I don't think they've done too bad a job, but I think Hock deserves a bit more. He caused the whole thing and I don't see why he shouldn't be aligned with Magennis. He threw punches for absolutely no reason as well and caused the initial incident with his messing about with head positions with LMS and his raising his head into LMS.'"
I suggest u watch it again, LMS was the instigator, Hock was silly to react but it was Saints only gameplan on the day that worked
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| Quote: bazdev "I suggest u watch it again, LMS was the instigator, Hock was silly to react but it was Saints only gameplan on the day that worked'"
That about sums up both Mike Rush and our coach Rob Powell, they may be good with academy players but they are completely out of their depth in Super League! it does our game no credit.
I expected Wilkin to at least be cautioned, otherwise fair enough!
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| Quote: bazdev "I suggest u watch it again, LMS was the instigator, Hock was silly to react but it was Saints only gameplan on the day that worked'"
Must be a different game you are talking about. The RFL panel seem to agree too.
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| Quote: bazdev "I suggest u watch it again, LMS was the instigator, Hock was silly to react but it was Saints only gameplan on the day that worked'"
No, Hock decides to start it. It's Saints' scrum, so LMS has 'head' in the scrum. Hock, being the mindless and petty bully tries to take it off him. LMS moves it back, so Hock twice ducks his head up into LMS, which LMS objects to and stands up. The cheek of someone standing up to him makes Hock see the red mist and he starts trying to uppercut LMS. Fortunately for LMS, Hock's fighting skills are as sharp as his intellect and he isn't hurt by it.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Hock charged - 1/2 matches
Mossop charged - 1/2 matches
Tuson charged - 2/3 matches
Magennis charged - 3/5 matches
LMS not charged
McIllorum wasn't even cited for his tackle post-brawl and neither was Wilkin for his spate of petulant high shots. Like I said in the Magennis thread, I think McIllorum not being charged is more to do with not banning 4 players from the same team, he does that any other week and he'd have been banned.'"
Won't Hocks previous have a bearing on his ban?
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| LMS is the one who started everything off, for him not to be cited is an utter disgrace, although the ones who retaliate always come worst off
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| LMS is the one who started everything off, for him not to be cited is an utter disgrace, although the ones who retaliate always come worst off
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| Quote: St pete "Won't Hocks previous have a bearing on his ban?'"
Only insofar as he isn't eligible for an early guilty plea.
Magennis deserves everything he gets IMO. That should then teach him that if you're going to fight, do it face to face. Preferably, though, concentrate on actually making an impact on the rugby pitch first.
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| Sad indictment of the softdness of SL these days. I wouldn't have banned any of them.
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| Quote: jaxx "LMS is the one who started everything off, for him not to be cited is an utter disgrace, although the ones who retaliate always come worst off'"
LMS throws exactly no punches. Him and Hock have a little push into each others heads, not a headbutt either way. Hock then unloads with 6 uppercuts.
Magennis and Tuson then pull each other away from the scrap and have words, Tuson turns to walk back towards the main bunch and Magennis hits in with a dog shot. Tuson rightly retaliates and both go into a swinging frenzy with a number of players catching the brunt of it. Mossop then clocks Magennis which is deserved, but this is also a dog shot from Mossop as he hits him from the side when Magennis is looking at O'Loughlin.
I've watched it in slow motion a few times - that's exactly what happened and ties in with exactly what the disciplinary have said. IMO they got it spot on and I think it should be:
Hock - 2 matches
Mossop - 1 match
Tuson - 2 matches
Magennis - 4 matches
That's looking at it from a completely unbiased point of view, personally I would have given Hock 3, there was no need to start throwing digs.
I also love biff and enjoyed it very much.
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| Quote: jaxx "LMS is the one who started everything off, for him not to be cited is an utter disgrace, although the ones who retaliate always come worst off'"
MAybe I should give sky a call then as there must be a problem with my box...
After I got home from the game, watched the game replay I had sky+ recorded, then also watched Super League full time and on both of those it shows Gareth Cock trying to headbutt LMS, putting his hands in his face then swinging punches at him...or maybe its just because Hock is so used to getting away with underhand cheap tactics like that you all think that its allowed to be let go if its him??
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| Got to agree with Mugwump on this. IMO a sin bin would have been sufficient for all and this seems a bit harsh to me. They are big aggressive guys playing a contact sport and sometimes it will boil over. I find it highly embarrassing that you can't have a bit of biff in a Rugby League match anymore without a lengthy ban coming your way!
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