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| What a strange side we've turned into. For 75% of the pitch tonight I thought we were utterly superb. The pack were completely and utterly dominant from start to finish. Puletua and Roby were brilliant as usual and I thought Josh Perry had his best performance yet for us. His kicking game is brilliant and he also laid the platform for it by making the hard yards too. His 'd' was also stellar. If we can get that out of him every week we'll be fine.
Laffranchi was solid, Flanagan and Sia too. Off the back of that I thought J-Lo was fantastic. Shenton's run and flick pass was Lyon-esque. Early ball and utterly sensational centre play from him there. If he is going to HKR, they are getting a player who can be the best centre in Super League. He's got it in him, it's up to coaches to get it out of him. Sensational finish from TMak as well, which made up for him costing us the McGuire try.
But enough of the positivity. The pack laid the platform so well tonight that we dominated field position completely. Phil said at half time Leeds had 9 play the balls in our 20 and not many in our half. We'd had 22 in their 20 and more in their half. And the score was 12-12. We just don't do enough to threaten in the opposition 20. We don't have set moves, there are no dummy runners, no clever runs or deceptive passes. It's just lumbering, slow play the balls, an obvious pass and an easy tackle repeated 5 times until we put a grubber into the first defender's shin. We're horrible in that regard. Wello has to take an awful lot of the flack in terms of our attacking, I'd love to see a stat on how many times per game he is tackled in the opposition 20. He seems to waste 2 tackles per set just lumbering in. There is a bit on 62 minutes that is classic Wello. 'Chiming' into the line very slowly, behind the play, stumbles into the line and falls at their feet with the ball.
If we can sort the attack out we can beat Wigan. Our pack matched them last week sans-TP and they can do so again. But we could have three weeks worth of sets on their line and not score more than a couple of tries from kicks. It's got to improve. Tonight was a 50 point win disguised as a close game because of our inability to threaten when we have field position.
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| Entertaining affair for 2 mid-table sides.
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| Brown will revolutionise this team.
The stats are startling. Highest rate of completion, most ptbs, good defence, yet we're floundering in terms of league position. Some decent plays, some fire in the belly, and we'll be extremely tough to beat.
I think we can have some impact in the playoffs, but I've really high hopes for next season.
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| The players have the ability, its just that we have been lacking a top class coach to put the jigsaw together.
Today showed yet again that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with our pack.
Its in the halves due to lack of experience and the the three quarters due to lack of pace, that we fall down.
Nice to see Shenton show us a glimpse of what he can offer in attack. He really is the type of centre though that needs to be put away on a retreating defence. Defensively though i thought Shents was getting sucked in and leaving our right hand side dreadfully exposed.
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| J-Lo & TMak
Oh for the love of god NO!
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| Quote: ThePrinter "J-Lo & TMak
Oh for the love of god NO!'"
we're cool here, you're top square to get it
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| Quote: wirethunder "Entertaining affair for 2 mid-table sides.'"
Well I guess you've watched a fair bit of mid table clashes over the years, to provide such a credible comment. Who are we to argue?
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| Quote: The Chair Maker "
Its in the halves due to lack of experience... '"
WHAT??!!!
How old is Hohaia?
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| Quote: ROBINSON "WHAT??!!!
How old is Hohaia?'"
29 I think. But it doesn't matter as he's probably only played 15 games at half back in his career and 9 with Lomax.
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| Quote: wirethunder "Entertaining affair for 2 mid-table sides.'"
Yes,2 sides you have failed to beat this season
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| Quote: Saddened! "29 I think. But it doesn't matter as he's probably only played 15 games at half back in his career and 9 with Lomax.'"
I'll put money on it that hohaia won't be playing stand off next year.
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| Quote: St pete "I'll put money on it that hohaia won't be playing stand off next year.'"
thatll make me happy, he's just not working there, gaskell now is much better, let alone if he reaches his potential
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| If Lance is not at half back next year, it does not nessasarily follow that Gaskell will be.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "If Lance is not at half back next year, it does not nessasarily follow that Gaskell will be.'"
true, but i wouldnt be devestated if we brought in a real stand off (Finch or Brough for example) either
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| Quote: Saint Simon "true, but i wouldnt be devestated if we brought in a real stand off (Finch or Brough for example) either'"
I do hope Gaskell makes it at Saints, but if we move Lance out of HB, then we will be left open to having another inexperience half next year as well if Gaskell was to fill in, so basically taking us back to game 1 of this year.
I think Gaskell should be in the team now, but if Finch comes in, that would require Lomax making way for Gaskell which I don't see, if Lance is on the move, as Lance to FB would be the obvious option. Maybe Gaskell to LF playing a Kevin Sinfield role..
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