Not even the most one eyed, blinkered Saint Helens fans could really disagree with any of that?

James Graham sucked.

Big time.




Well done on your win. I didnt watch the entire game (it was on at the Walkabout but no one really seemed interested) but I was hoping Wigan would win

Just a pity it wont be a Wigan v Roosters WCC next year

I think you'll find that the NRL players and coaches will know who burgess is. I think it was fellow convict that said ellis is the best forward in the world.

Graham should stay here before you lot get him involved in drinking, drugs, rape and wife beating.

Indeed he should

We have got enough poor quality Poms in the NRL without another one coming over.



Especially a ginger one








ps I think you meant Sammy Burgess not Luke

HTH

Yes i did mean sam but im sure luke would hold his own over in the one up NRL.

The British game is in a worse way than I first thought in that case

If weyman and the roosters number 20 can play NRL then any super league prop can play it.

Ryles also very poor who couldn't cut it in super league.

Only watched little bits of the NRL grand final as it's so boring.

It was poor this year I must be honest.

But look at the sides who were playing.

I don't watch the NRL anymore as it has become so boring one man rugby that makes me very sleepy.

Didn't the dragons finish top of the NRL ?

Didn't the roosters coach get the NRL coach of the year?

and......

Didn't the alcky at 6 for roosters get the dally m ?

St George are the best side in the comp?

Certainly got the best coach

Absolutely!!

Wayne Bennett could even make England win something






well....

Maybe

They should put him in charge of the aussies for the world cup, they might win it back from the world champs which is the kiwis.

NRL is very overrated in many repsects. We put it on a pedestal think its so much better. As the Aussies tells us it is. Internationally GB and England have struggled but in about 2-3 years the gap will narrow when players like Sam Tomkins, Joel Tomkins, James Graham hit their prime. Foundations has been laid by cutting the amount of Overseas players coming into SL. The 3 players would be stars in the NRL.

But players like Ellis, Morley and Burgess have made an impact in the so called better competition. When weve had players who have come for the NRL to SL and gone home complaining of home sickenss. When infact its tougher than they thought. Danny Budereus a legend in NRL has looked average at best in SL. Cunningham is head and shoulders above him. And thats without the cry baby whinging NRL players who are here for a pension. SL is improving and the NRL is going backwards.



The only good side you had in the NRL was cheating the Storm.

NRL is so so boring, i can't bring myself to watch it anymore.

Yea NRL is so boring, no holding down at the play ball, or wrestling moves to slow the game down and faster wing men! Super League does not compare to RL in the Wembley Cup Final that the BBC showed recently on their rugby league night, even though Leeds won it was a different and more exciting game altogether.

Leeds won what ?

I'd advise any player against going to the NRL.

Going to the NRL increases your chances of going to jail for either drink, drugs, rape, wife beating or get caught up in match fixing.

Be warned kids, the NRL is bad for your health.

PLEASE tell me you aren't serious

The NRL is rubbish.

I'd rather watch blackbrook under 9s than the NRL.

You are Paul Gadd and I claim my £5

Which part am i wrong on.

The 3 players i mentioned would not fail in the NRL. Ellis, Burgess and Morely did not fail.

When the world championship gets played and the NRL loses its said its only a friendly they dont take it serious. Bull basically you cant stand losing and nay exscuse will do. And lets not forget the best side in the NRL for the last 3 season or so cheated. And not by the odd thousand but by tens of thousads. The standard for NRL which you all put on a pedastle was a lie. Keep convincing yourself that SL is not getting better and the NRL is going backwards. Remember the best side in the NRL is now losing a chunk of its side and so weakness the best side in it.

Has Budereus enhanced his reputation in SL no he heas not. Matt kng took over 12 months to settle down. He waqs a world class superstar in the NRL. Here he is not. Even now id have Cunningham in my side before Buderus but KC knows when to quit at the top. How many players form the NRL have come here with big reputations only to fail. The English players that go to the NRL dont complain of been homesick.

NRL 5-10 years ago was way ahead as we were letting in too many players from it into SL looking for a pension and a 2 year holiday. With the new franchise system with no relegation lets a coach play the young players without been too worried about the sack. Which is brilliant as it means less NRL players here looking for a pension. Players like Jason Ryles could not hack SL so plays now for GF winnners in the NRL.

NRL overrated.

Ryles played for the Roosters and they lost,Barry stop wasteing your time with these clowns pete are you sure you dont play with the Blackbrooke U9s.

Very poorly constructed post but Barry McKenzie will attempt to decipher what the hell you are on about and respond accordingly.

Despite what you say all 3 of those pommie players HAVE failed.

Eliss bombed many of the sort of chances to score that if you recreated them under scientific conditions it would be proven that my own grandmother would have scored a 4 pointer. He and his side failed to make the grand final. Thats a failure.

Burgess was billed by Russell Crowe as an unstoppable gladiator from the northern hemisphere... the only thing that could stop him was kryptonite... or if you waved a bar of soap at him. He would power Souths to the premiership. Yet Souths failed to even make the 8 let alone make the grand final.

Burgess was built up to be some god like figure by Crowe simply to increase the amount of memberships sold for Souths. And it worked. Sadly he was found out as just another ordinary pom.

Morely was possibly the best of all 3. But he couldnt tackle. His idea of a low tackle was anywhere below the scalp. Time after time he injured himself through his poor tackling technique...thereby he missed a lot of games. That is if he wasnt suspended. Ultimately this cost him his career with the Roosters and he was shipped back home.

Danny Buderus came to England (I believe) when he was about 30. Danny was a good player for the Knights. But like all the good players... they get old. And injured. And like most Aussies when they get old and injured... they come to superleague. Because the game is easier here. And for a pension. And if rumours are to be believed Danny was on heaps of money at Leeds. Who could blame him for coming out of retirement?

English players dont complain about being homesick when they go to Australia. And if you had ever been there you would see why.

I got homesick when I left there a few years ago. I've lived and worked in quite a few countries since I left. But going home is the best feeling ever. It's not surprising Aussie players get homesick when they move here. It's like a different world compared to Oz.

The reasons Australian Rugby league has been so successful at international level for the last 30+ years or more is due to that comment you made. Australians dont like losing. Thats also why England/GB have been so poor and never won anything of note since before I was born. There is an apathy about the poms. They expect to lose. You only have to look at comments people have made on this very forum about Englands chances in the 4 Nations. You are all expecting to get a flogging. That will possibly be the case. But apathy breeds apathy. The team have forgotten how to win. And whats sad is... hardly anyone seems bothered.


I've always said I feel sorry for English RL Fans. They deserve better.

But I cant see when the better times will come.

Is this the same Ellis that got named Wests best player. Dam must be some crap players at the Tigers if a pommie is the best one of them all. That must be one awful side. www.nrl.com/news/news/newsarticl ... fault.aspx Nice the way you constructed your agrument around the failure of Burgess and Ellis. After all the rest of the players had bugger all to do with it and arent most of them Aussies. RE: Buderus But the money is the problem its given that sort of a contract to an over the hill player that stops talent coming through. Have nothing against NRL players like Matt King who come here but way too many have come here excpecting an easy ride only to run off home. Ryles was a big failure in SL and could not hack the so called weaker game. If you can get a copy or have already read it Kris Radlinski makes a very good point of the condition of Wigan when he got into the sqaud and when he retired. RE: International Your right most of the time England or GB excpects to lose and tbh i have no faith in the coach. If he was not good enough for the Bulls he should be nowhere near international rugby. If Australia did not turn up for a game against England they would still win it.

Is this the same Ellis that got named Wests best player. Dam must be some crap players at the Tigers if a pommie is the best one of them all. That must be one awful side. www.nrl.com/news/news/newsarticl ... fault.aspx Nice the way you constructed your agrument around the failure of Burgess and Ellis. After all the rest of the players had bugger all to do with it and arent most of them Aussies. RE: Buderus But the money is the problem its given that sort of a contract to an over the hill player that stops talent coming through. Have nothing against NRL players like Matt King who come here but way too many have come here excpecting an easy ride only to run off home. Ryles was a big failure in SL and could not hack the so called weaker game. If you can get a copy or have already read it Kris Radlinski makes a very good point of the condition of Wigan when he got into the sqaud and when he retired. RE: International Your right most of the time England or GB excpects to lose and tbh i have no faith in the coach. If he was not good enough for the Bulls he should be nowhere near international rugby. If Australia did not turn up for a game against England they would still win it.

Just picking out one of your points made above...

English players, (or English people in general) are not allowed to get home sick when they move to the other side of the world, but Australians can be ?

We have discussed this many times.

Eliss was voted player of the year...... by other members of Wests Tigers.


Interestingly he wasn't voted best forward of the year.


wonder why