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| Quote: St pete "Saintsfan wrote
Who would you suggest? Graham at half back?
We have who we have, and berating Gaskell cause Pryce and Wilkin are injured and Eastmond has given up does nothing but add pressure to the lad.
There is not a lorry load of quality half back with no club to play for who will play for free. He maybe 4th choice but he if that's where we are that is where we are. But he's doing a fine job as far as I'm concerned and is not that far off other halfbacks, but he needs a partner.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Fine. But what if we lose all those games while he's merrily learning the ropes? What if we're out of the play offs, the crowds are at 5,000 and all those bar you who are there are chanting 'Sack the board', 'Saddened! for president' and 'Boooooooo' all the time?'"
Then that is how it goes. We have one crocked first choice halfback and one suspended, possibly never to be seen again. We have no option but to play Gaskell in the halves along with either Wheeler or Lomax (I'm favouring Wheeler because I think Lomax has been quite good at centre and Wheeler has the guile of the two). So if that means we have a totally naff season then that is how it has to be. However, since last week he topped the try assist charts in Superleague, I don't think Gaskell will be the cause of any naff season we might have. Our thinner squad in the face of extensive injuries plus a bad work ethic throughout the team may well be, but I very much doubt Gaskell will be.
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| Quote: Mugwump "Regardless of who Simmons prefers in the playmaking positions and in the absence (and likely future absence) of Pyrce a decision must be made NOW on which two players are going to lead the club forward till the end of the season. If it's Gaskell and Lomax, or Lomax and Wheeler, or Gaskell and Moore etc. play them and KEEP PLAYING THEM. It's bad enough that we are going to have to rely - long term - on second string players and kids. Let's not make things far worse by continually swapping and changing players week to week. I firmly believe that Lomax and Wheeler especially have had their development slowed because they are forever being moved about to accommodate others. If we give them a run of ten-or-so games in one position they'll improve far quicker.'"
I agree with this, they need a sustained period in their positions to develop as players, simple as
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| Quote: Saint Simon "I agree with this, they need a sustained period in their positions to develop as players, simple as'"
Yup
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| Quote: St pete "Think your missing the point mate. I'm not saying Gaskell ain't good enough, I'm saying he's not ready yet to be our 7 with no experienced halfback alongside him.
I think Gaskell has done pretty good since he came in to the first team but he's not ready yet.'"
Fair play, unfortunately, we don't really have any options now that Eastmond is suspended.
I think he'll look more comfortable when pryce is back, but the team as a whole need to be pulling their weight in the mean time, which I don't think they're doing.
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| So it looks like Gaskell is not as awful as people thought. Just needed a foil to take the pressure off. With Gaskell's kicking and Lomax's running the team looked alot more organised in attack.
Meli in the centre's. Hey Please let it continue.
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| Seems that he was having to do the job of two half backs.
Give him a talented, willing partner and he looks every bit a SL player.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "So it looks like Gaskell is not as awful as people thought. .'"
Er excuse me. Some of us didn't ever think he WAS awful, if you remember!
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Er excuse me. Some of us didn't ever think he WAS awful, if you remember!'"
I seam to have wronged you in another life. I've no idea why you think I'm talking about you on every post. I don't even recall trying to disagree with you.
But feel free to continue berating me.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Young players will not progress or develop unless there is someone showing them how. We don't currently have an old head in the side capable of encouraging and advising a young half back. Leon in the side with Gaskell would be fine, I'd have no problems with that. It would be a really beneficial thing for Gaskell's development for him to play alongside Leon.
BUT without him in the side it's akin to having a formula one car and a baby in the driving seat. You are not going to get very far and could easily be detrimental to his development.'"
babies did all right though didn't they oh bringer of doom?
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| Quote: saint at wire "Looks quite a good team to me.
Might have a few quid on it with betfair!
In fact I just have at a very generous 7/5. I also had an even more generous bet on Quins against dire at 9/2.'"
Yeah of little faith.
Get in there saints!!!
Salford at 9/2 followed by us at 7/5; now all I need is quins to do to dire what they did to us last week and I'm an even happier bunny.
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| Quote: saint at wire "Yeah of little faith.
Get in there saints!!!
Salford at 9/2 followed by us at 7/5; now all I need is quins to do to dire what they did to us last week and I'm an even happier bunny.'"
Did you win on the Gold cup too.
To be fair I was expecting a loss, just hoped for a more balanced side with an improved performance. It was touch and go for a while there, regarding the result.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "I seam to have wronged you in another life. '"
No, just this one. You were wanting to be all cautious about our win when it's the first one we've really been able to celebrate this season. I demanded my right to go OTT after a win! But I'm sober again now, so apologies if you thought I was having a go. I was but not in a nasty way. )
We did look fab, sorry I'll try to be more positive.
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