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WIGAN RLFC
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 2010
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010
FLOODLIT 9 CHAMPIONS 2010
U20's VALVOLINE GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2010
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010
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MAN OF STEEL 2010 - PAT RICHARDS
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| Quote: Saint Simon "www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME
In training , can he play ermm No , so he's not back his he brains
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: Mugwump "A ban for two years includes training. Anything else is a perversion of justice.'"
Not so often your right, but obviously you're wrong again. |
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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Not so often your right, but obviously you're wrong again.'"
No he's right. |
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| Quote: shooter69 "In training , can he play ermm No , so he's not back his he brains'"
the original ban was from any contact with the club, so what is to stop the next brain dead idiot who does this to spend his ban training with his team mates? |
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: Don Brennan "No he's right.'"
It would appear that the judge, the RFL and the anti doping WDA don't agree with either of you.
As I posted last week.
Quote: Don Brennan "Obviously it doesn't.
Your opinion is irrelevant.
Let the INDEPENDENT hearing decide.
As a Wigan fan I'm happy with that (regardless of the decision)'" |
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Ahh Tesco
Building St Helens & Warrington's future
Destroying Wigans past
"Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower": |
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Basically the RFL are saying take drugs and you'll be back in under 2 yrs(20mths)
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| Quote: Rommel "Basically the RFL are saying take drugs and you'll be back in under 2 yrs(20mths)'"
the next one will be just a ban from playing, training is fine apparently |
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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Rommel, Mugwump, Don Brennan.
Only Saints Fan missing and we could have had four queens.
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How you can say Hock is being let off is beyond a joke when other examples in RL are well known. KC played for a long time whilst on HCG but got off with it because 'he didnt know what the doctor was giving him' im sure if the RFL hadnt of been paying a chunk of his wages the outcome may of been different. And yeh because we all would let a doctor inject stuff without being sure what it was. Matt Calland was given a suspended sentance for Nandrolone before he retired. Hock tested positive for a recreational drug not enhancing, he never cheated anyone apart from his own club and fans.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME
has the terry newton issue not taught you anything? You can't leave them out in the cold, we must re-habilitate and re-integrate these players who have lost their way.
otherwise, more of them might end up in a bad way.
Whilst taking drugs in sport is bad, it's not the end of the world and the embrassment alone is often enough to show they wont do it again.
we can't let these people fall into bad ways, we are a better sport than that.
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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
Give the girl her dummy back.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18821.jpg |
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Rommel, Mugwump, Don Brennan.
Only Saints Fan missing and we could have had four queens.'"
OOOwwww get her,you still getting your kicks from watching the kids. |
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: Saint Simon "the next one will be just a ban from playing, training is fine apparently'"
I'm just guessing here, but I presume it must be a 24 month playing ban, but a 21 month ban from training with "a team". It was stated in the newspaper that a precedent had already been set with an un-named footballer.
If that player had been allowed to train with his team in less than 21 months then I would have expected Hock to apply earlier. |
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I'd be very interested to see how all these outraged people would react had it been one of our players, I suspect it would have been very differently. The guy still cant play so I don't see how it affects any other team.
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1998,2010,2013,2016,2018 & 2023.....I was there
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| Quote: Sadfish "has the terry newton issue not taught you anything? You can't leave them out in the cold, we must re-habilitate and re-integrate these players who have lost their way.
otherwise, more of them might end up in a bad way.
Whilst taking drugs in sport is bad, it's not the end of the world and the embrassment alone is often enough to show they wont do it again.
we can't let these people fall into bad ways, we are a better sport than that.'"
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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
Give the girl her dummy back.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18821.jpg |
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| Quote: Bill_Barlow "How you can say Hock is being let off is beyond a joke when other examples in RL are well known. KC played for a long time whilst on HCG but got off with it because 'he didnt know what the doctor was giving him' im sure if the RFL hadnt of been paying a chunk of his wages the outcome may of been different. And yeh because we all would let a doctor inject stuff without being sure what it was. Matt Calland was given a suspended sentance for Nandrolone before he retired. Hock tested positive for a recreational drug not enhancing, he never cheated anyone apart from his own club and fans.'"
Not true,the WDA consider It a stimulant. Also It Is used to camouflage other drugs that they might be takeing also.
I see a lot of Wigoon fans are remarking how big Hock looks and cant wait to see him In the front row. |
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