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| Quote ="JingoDjango"If "Whoever wins it will be the worst team in SL ever to have achieved it", what does it say about the rest? Rubbish? Idle? Unprofessional?'"
It says they understand what counts and where their efforts need to be most concentrated.
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| Quote ="Sweaty Betty's"Whoever wins it will be the worst team in SL ever to have achieved it. The quality of our game is so far behind the Aussies that you would need a telescope to get close to them!'"
This is not a new thing.
Just look at how we get owned by Australia everytime we play internationals. Add to that the second rate Imports that we bring over. It's a fact that 90% of the players that come over are the ones with a career to resurrect/ ageing payday players or the ones that fancy a bit of tourism for a couple of years. SL will always play second fiddle to NRL while ever this is happening, personally I think it stinks that we can't coach English players to the same standard as NRL on a consistent basis.
SL has always and will always be second rate compared to NRL, it's in their DNA; it isn't in ours.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"It says they understand what counts and where their efforts need to be most concentrated.'"
Thats only applicable to the few teams who have won the grand final in the last couple of seasons for the rest its an achievement of consistency over 27 games.
In retrospect this casual approach to the league is what's killing the game, ever regular round of superleague should be of good quality and intensity but the games are dumbed down to slow, wrestling, inconsistent refereeing affairs with jockeying for postion in the last month of the season.
Hopefully next season might improve it a bit because this scenario will happen only for 22 games so we might get some intensity back.
If we say teams only concentrate with 100% in the play offs then Superleague is undercooked for most of the season and the game suffers. The NRL don't adopt this strategy and we wonder why we can't catch up at international level.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Thats only applicable to the few teams who have won the grand final in the last couple of seasons for the rest its an achievement of consistency over 27 games.
In retrospect this casual approach to the league is what's killing the game, ever regular round of superleague should be of good quality and intensity but the games are dumbed down to slow, wrestling, inconsistent refereeing affairs with jockeying for postion in the last month of the season.
Hopefully next season might improve it a bit because this scenario will happen only for 22 games so we might get some intensity back.
If we say teams only concentrate with 100% in the play offs then Superleague is undercooked for most of the season and the game suffers. The NRL don't adopt this strategy and we wonder why we can't catch up at international level.'"
The NRL teams can't adpot that strategy because teams have to fight with every ounce of blood and sweat just to have a chance of the playoffs. The super league competition just isn't that strong. NZ warriors didn't even make the playoffs yet they have some awesome players like shaun johnson, conrad hurrell, sam tomkins and many more, they've played some awesome rugby and would easily put 50 on the best teams in super league yet haven't even made the finals.
The strength of the competition down there is mindblowing. Every game is played at super league grand final intensity.
.........And then it steps up a few gears in the finals when things get serious.
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| And the ex-NRL Aussies in SL aren't always saying this because......?
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"It says they understand what counts and where their efforts need to be most concentrated.'"
Unprofessional, then. As, by this, you're saying that they're not going out and trying their best to win each week. Where, in your opinion, does "where to concentrate their efforts" end and "match-fixing by deliberate underperformance" begin?
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| Quote ="JingoDjango"And the ex-NRL Aussies in SL aren't always saying this because......?'"
You obviously don't watch any NRL.
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| No I don't. Would you care to comment on my other post too?
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| Ive yet to see fans of clubs who dont win the lls say anything positive about it. You dont have to go back many years when people whose club won the lls where saying the real champions are the league winners and not the winners of an end of season play off system.
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| Catalans up by 22 points with 10 minutes to go.
It's coming home, it's coming home, the hubcap's coming home.
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| Would this squad of players win SL:
ARONA, Tinirau
AYSHFORD, Blake
BROWN, Fa'amanu
BROWN, Mitch
DAVIDSON, Reece
ENNIS, Michael (c)
FEKI, Sosaia
FIFITA, Andrew
FIFITA, David
GAGAN, Jacob
GALLEN, Paul (c)
GARDNER, Nathan
GIBBS, Bryce
GORDON, Michael
GRAHAM, Wade
GROTHE, Eric
HEIGHINGTON, Chris
HOLDSWORTH, Daniel
HOLMES, Valentine
LEUTELE, Ricky
LEWIS, Luke
LICHAA, Michael
MANUMALEALII, Penani
MASIMA, Sione
MEXICO, Mark
MORRIS, John
MORRIS, Michael
POLITONI, Pat
PRIOR, Matt
ROBINSON, Tim
ROBSON, Jeff
ROQICA, Junior
RYAN, Beau
SOPOAGA, Tupou
SORENSON, Scott
TAGATAESE, Sam
TUPOU, Anthony
VAVE, Siosaia
WRIGHT, Jonathan
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That's Cronulla Sharks, they're bottom of the NRL. Look at some of those names, they'd be superstars in this league!
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| Cronulla wouldn't be bottom if their squad hadn't been completely decimated for pretty much the entire year.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"The strength of the competition down there is mindblowing. Every game is played at super league grand final intensity.'"
Errrr.... no. You clearly don't watch much NRL beyond the 'big games' - Canberra , Cronulla and the Tigers have played some of the worst footy I have ever seen this year.
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| Quote ="JonB95"Errrr.... no. You clearly don't watch much NRL beyond the 'big games' - Canberra , Cronulla and the Tigers have played some of the worst footy I have ever seen this year.'"
Not just them.
Look at Manly. They conceded 40 points in their play off game. A number of teams have conceded over 40 points in games this year. There have been some serious thumpings.
And some of it bores the pants off me. It's just five drives, a big wrestle and a kick.
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| Quote ="BuckleyStreetWire"Would this squad of players win SL:
ARONA, Tinirau
AYSHFORD, Blake
BROWN, Fa'amanu
BROWN, Mitch
DAVIDSON, Reece
ENNIS, Michael (c)
FEKI, Sosaia
FIFITA, Andrew
FIFITA, David
GAGAN, Jacob
GALLEN, Paul (c)
GARDNER, Nathan
GIBBS, Bryce
GORDON, Michael
GRAHAM, Wade
GROTHE, Eric
HEIGHINGTON, Chris
HOLDSWORTH, Daniel
HOLMES, Valentine
LEUTELE, Ricky
LEWIS, Luke
LICHAA, Michael
MANUMALEALII, Penani
MASIMA, Sione
MEXICO, Mark
MORRIS, John
MORRIS, Michael
POLITONI, Pat
PRIOR, Matt
ROBINSON, Tim
ROBSON, Jeff
ROQICA, Junior
RYAN, Beau
SOPOAGA, Tupou
SORENSON, Scott
TAGATAESE, Sam
TUPOU, Anthony
VAVE, Siosaia
WRIGHT, Jonathan
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That's Cronulla Sharks, they're bottom of the NRL. Look at some of those names, they'd be superstars in this league!'"
Interesting list. For all we moan about too many imports in our game, how many of them are Australian?
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| Another set of posts over hyping the NRL, yet when it comes to the International games the SL players still hold their own.
And that is with a coach that most don't rate.
I'm more a believer in what one man can do another can do. They are not Gods, they are just men.
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| I agree with the above. I do get a bit sick of the NRL love fest. I try to watch the games but I don't find them any more exciting than ours.
Let's see what happens in the WCC...something the British teams seem to do well in.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Another set of posts over hyping the NRL, yet when it comes to the International games the SL players still hold their own.
And that is with a coach that most don't rate.
I'm more a believer in what one man can do another can do. They are not Gods, they are just men.'"
When was this ? I missed that one ? Everytime I've seen internationals vs Australia they've cruised along without the need to hit second gear.
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| Quote ="JingoDjango"No I don't. Would you care to comment on my other post too?'"
Thought not. 
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| Quote ="Sweaty Betty's"Whoever wins it will be the worst team in SL ever to have achieved it. The quality of our game is so far behind the Aussies that you would need a telescope to get close to them!'"
The Story of the "Fox and the Grapes" comes to mind
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