Haven't seen it anywhere else, doubt anyone will be surprised. www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 53,00.html

Haven't seen it anywhere else, doubt anyone will be surprised. www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 53,00.html

Quote ="Smurf"Haven't seen it anywhere else, doubt anyone will be surprised. www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 53,00.html'" I was told this on Friday. The guy who told me said saints paid cayless £30,000 a few months ago as a buy out. The same guy told me potter will quit at the end of the year and saints already lined next coach up.

Quote ="Smurf"Haven't seen it anywhere else, doubt anyone will be surprised. www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 53,00.html'" I was told this on Friday. The guy who told me said saints paid cayless £30,000 a few months ago as a buy out. The same guy told me potter will quit at the end of the year and saints already lined next coach up.

Why would they pay 30k to buy out his contract when in all essence it finishes in a few weeks anyway.

makes no sense at all that. So the rest of the inside info i would also take with a pinch of salt.


Shame for a very good player to go out in such a way but i am sure he will be back.

Could be true. His contract will contain all kinds of clauses for injuries etc. I reckon there is a possibility the club would pay him off early (It could have happened a month ago for all we know).

Another thing with Potter is that he never wanted to come in the first place. He clearly only did it for the money and he could well have decided he wants out.

Not saying either are true, but given how this season has gone it's hardly stretching things is it.

Good bye; good ridance.

Too many injuries, too many useless offloads.

Hope he has a nice retirement on our cash in NZ.

In that case, he would still have to be on £30k a month

for them to save money. I don't think so some how.... My advice to St. Pete, after hearing so many rumours over 30 years from people in the know is, don't believe everything you hear.

I met the same guy. he was very convincing - he told me he had a job a the greenwich observatory.

He told me that at the end of the ocean there was a waterfall and that the moon was made of cheese.

I'vr just hired a moonboat t collect some of this stuff so I can sell it to gullable peolple at our next home game.

Sorry Pete not having a go but how many unattributable wild comments have you got other than a "man in the pub" or "someone told me etc".

I realise you may have some grteat sources but please try to define them a bit more.

Kn*b

agreed words of a lad more likely a lass who has never played the game.

Key part of 2 challenge cups and a SL title and he gets abuse for picking up potentially a career threatening injury playing for the red vee.

Some of our supporters are absolute morons.

Absolutely out of order.
I bet you bagged Scully at the end too didn't you? And thought Cunningham was finished three seasons ago!
How many serious injuries have you had playing the game at a high level?

Now you have me!
What a raw nerve I have inadvertenly touched.

I have no proper experience of any games at any decent level and no serious injuries thankfully.
This obviously disqualifies me from comment does it?

However, I've never been a fan of Jason and breathe a sigh of relief to him going from our team echoing the words of our illustrious chairperson:
[i"I would like to wish Jason Cayless every success and every luck in his life back in Australia," said St Helens chairman Eamonn McManus.[/i

It gives us some room in the squad for someone who is not as unreliable hopefully.

I did "bag" Scully - and was right. He was a "drag" on the squad for a long while. If you were off ill all the time, would your elpojer keep you on?

Cunningham is well worth another season. Longy was worth 2 seasons (unfortunately the club owners didn't think so) and I am absolutely gutted that Gilly is going - he s worth 2 if not 3 more seasons.

your point being..........?

How did Scully get the contract he was paid?

Please see my points below.

No free speech without insults?

For a supporter of the Red Vee I would expect that you would have a little more respect for players that have literally put their bodies on the line for the sake of your 'entertainment'.
You don't play for your country and win Grand finals, in both hemispheres if you are a total waste of space.
Your comments are out of order because you give the man no repect at all.

nail on head.

Because the club mistakenly believed (I say this in in reprospect obviously) that he would recover past glories. No one was more disappointed than me that he never again became what he used to be i.e. the best loose in SL, possibly the world.

If they had known that he was never going to fully recover any decent form, they would have binned him.

So.....your point being?

That he gave his body and career to ensuring Saints were a successful team.

Sorry. I give JC respect for his good times with us, but I think he has been a drain on our very finaite resources for a long time.
Sorry but I'm thinking: knackered prop going = new not knackered prop arriving.

As I have said earlier; more than happy to keep KC, SL and Gilly for as long they don't become a drain on our club which is unfortunately losing a lot of £'s each year.

What if we had kept him on for another year? Would there be applause on this forum - I think not.

If you did and one or all get injured do they suddenly deserve the lack of respect you have shown?

Stick to following football son.

Never disagreed with this.
So, without being awkward what is your point?

Is it that we should keep past great players who can not get over serious injuries on the payroll forever?
That to terminate contracts is some sort of ungrateful betrayal?
Or is it the right thing to do in order to free up salary cap and also allow the club to keep young up and coming platyr to stay at the club.

Is this some sort of sacred cow that I have abused or is it really just the only way to run a club with limited resources?

You are obviously incapable of reading - SEE BOLD writing.

Stick to following the pies son.

No not at all but you should respect people that put you in the position you are.

Every player has a sell by date but to slate them for it as you did shows a lack of respect for those that have put you in the position you are now in and also if you cannot understand that fact you have never played the game.

Your initial post showed a total lack of respect to a player who gave his all for your club and was top class, i am sure most Saints fans would be happy to retain him despite his injury if it meant losing fans like you.

Does the same not apply to JC? He was one of the best props in the world when he signed for Saints and anybody that knows anything about the game knows this.

In 2006 he was awesome, doing basically what Graham is doing now. In 2007 he was very good even though he had a few injuries. 2008 he missed most of the season due to injury but was good in the games he played. 2009 he received the injury that has ended his career at Saints.

Personally I am gutted to see him go, when he was fit he was one of the best props in SL, he got through a load of work and always had an offload waiting for someone. I just hope we replace him with someone as good if not better