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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Warrington need titles. You can't lay claim to being one of the games biggest clubs if you haven't won a title in over half a century. Titles are needed, not just one but multiple. Since the inception of the grand final on only 3 occasions have wigan not been either in the grand final, or the grand final semi. (99,05,06). That's some serious sh*t, consistently being there or thereabouts. Saints have never not contested the playoffs. Leeds have won more Super league grand finals than any other team. Rome wasn't built in a day.'"
This!!!!!
Quote ="Gazwire"In all honesty, I would say that Saints are the bigger club but we're getting closer. But how many more seasons of crap recruitment, dull as dishwater rugby and falling attendances will it take for the perception of Saints as a big club to go? Anyway, as a Wire fan, I'm enjoying the excitement of quality signings and being in contention for all major honours over recent years. It certainly feels better to be on the way up than on the way down.'"
You finished 6th last year (5th the year before)...do you know when the last time Saints finished 6th in the table mate? I'll tell you, the 1990-91 season. We still got to Wembley that year.. That's what it means to be a big club. To always be there or thereabouts. We finished 4th this year and most of the season we've been shouting for our coaches head because we demand a certain standard on a regular basis, season after season.
Warrington are a million miles away from sharing Wigan, Leeds and Saints pedestal.
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| Quote ="Twentyman" Warrington are a million miles away from sharing Wigan, Leeds and Saints pedestal.'"
agree 100% I'd add Bradford into that list as well. ...are you shouting for Wigan on Saturday?
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"agree 100% I'd add Bradford into that list as well. ...are you shouting for Wigan on Saturday?'"
Nah mate. It's a no win for me this weekend. It's like picking between gastroscopy (Wigan) or colonoscopy (Warrington).
I genuinely wish you an enjoyable evening though. It's going to be a brilliant game.
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"agree 100% I'd add Bradford into that list as well. ...are you shouting for Wigan on Saturday?'"
Bradford are nowhere near the three most successful clubs. Swinton and Salford have won more the same amount of championship as Bradford. Huddersfield have won more championships and more CCs than Bradford
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"Bradford are nowhere near the three most successful clubs. Swinton and Salford have won more the same amount of championship as Bradford. Huddersfield have won more championships and more CCs than Bradford'"
talking super league era.
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| who gives a toss whos the bigger club and whats the prize for being the bigger club...nowt..any way it seems you`ve got over thursdays game..
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"who gives a toss whos the bigger club and whats the prize for being the bigger club...nowt..any way it seems you`ve got over thursdays game..'"
The bigger question is why Warrington fans haven't?
They are the ones that started and continued most of the threads on this Saints forum.
You think they'd have more important things to consider.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"The bigger question is why Warrington fans haven't?
They are the ones that started and continued most of the threads on this Saints forum.
You think they'd have more important things to consider.'"
we have saturdays final..hope you enjoy the final from your arm chair whilst our small club and its fans lock horns with injury ravaged wigan
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| Headline: "Warrington are giant killers once again"
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| Quote ="silver2"Headline: "Warrington are giant killers once again"'"
Awkward.....
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| Quote ="silver2"Headline: "Warrington are giant killers once again"'"
Have you got any particular year in mind for when it matters.
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| It might be 2008.... wrong date, was it the last time saints were at wembley.
Saints fans, a question? You have 2 choices:
Option 1:
Watch a dull as dishwater side making no finals, with a statue outside representing the static qualities
of a certain clubs ethos.
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Side in the CC final, ll shield and GF final playing proper entertaining rl.
I'm not going to mention the playing rota of both clubs:
Option 1: watching paint dry
Option 2: not watching paint dry.
I know saints are the biggest club v us at the mo, but you're the gift that keeps giving. For years you've laughed at us but now the shoe is on the other foot.
Face it, at this point in time your side and set up is inferior. I would expect a club of your standing to reverse this, but it ain't happening at the moment. That's what I love about the Wire v Saints rivalry- You used to take the p big time, but it's not so funny now that you're crap.
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| Quote ="Gazwire"It might be 2008.... wrong date, was it the last time saints were at wembley.
Saints fans, a question? You have 2 choices:
Option 1:
Watch a dull as dishwater side making no finals, with a statue outside representing the static qualities
of a certain clubs ethos.
Option 2:
Side in the CC final, ll shield and GF final playing proper entertaining rl.
I'm not going to mention the playing rota of both clubs:
Option 1: watching paint dry
Option 2: not watching paint dry.
I know saints are the biggest club v us at the mo, but you're the gift that keeps giving. For years you've laughed at us but now the shoe is on the other foot.
Face it, at this point in time your side and set up is inferior. I would expect a club of your standing to reverse this, but it ain't happening at the moment. That's what I love about the Wire v Saints rivalry- You used to take the p big time, but it's not so funny now that you're crap.'"
Hahahahahahahahah were so crap weve won the same amount of trophies than Wire in the last 3 years hahahah infact we have won more.
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| Quote ="Gazwire"
I know saints are the biggest club v us at the mo, but you're the gift that keeps giving. =#FF0000For years you've laughed at us but now the shoe is on the other foot.
Face it, at this point in time your side and set up is inferior. I would expect a club of your standing to reverse this, but it ain't happening at the moment. That's what I love about the Wire v Saints rivalry- You used to take the p big time, but it's not so funny now that you're crap.'"
Tony Smith has admitted you are not a big team until you have won the "big one", we've got to 10 grand finals, won the big one be it good, bad or ugly on 5 occasions. You don't have any shoes to wear because zero wins on 3 occasions is a 100% failure rate a funny situation to be in from our perspective.
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"Hahahahahahahahah were so crap weve won the same amount of trophies than Wire in the last 3 years hahahah infact we have won more.'"
LFC Saint answer the questions.
For a club of your size and tradition. Why have you not been to Wembley since 2008? A jammy gf thanks to flower. An ethos of
poor, dull as dishwater rugby. Crap poundstretcher signings. The most famous thing about saints is fat micheal mcintyre/LMS having a doze everytime there is a drop out.
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| Quote ="Gazwire"LFC Saint answer the questions.
For a club of your size and tradition. Why have you not been to Wembley since 2008? A jammy gf thanks to flower. An ethos of mickey
poor, dull as dishwater rugby. Crap poundstretcher signings. The most famous thing about saints is fat micheal mcintyre/LMS having a doze everytime there is a drop out.'"
Because we have under achieved yet we have still won more than your lot in the last 3 years. Your the only club constantly paying large transfer fees yet you win nothing its embarrasing. You keep saying you have a fantastic club and squad you failed to even make the top 4 the last 2 years.
Forget trophies or how poor we play id take cunningham being our coach for the next 10 years and us win nothing than be assosiated with your club and sh*tty town. Absolutely vile fans and your whole town stinks of people walking round thinking there of higher class. Truth is its a shi##ole. Enjoy your night mate, i am.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Tony Smith has admitted you are not a big team until you have won the "big one", we've got to 10 grand finals, won the big one be it good, bad or ugly on 5 occasions. You don't have any shoes to wear because zero wins on 3 occasions is a 100% failure rate a funny situation to be in from our perspective.'"
I guess 5/5 losses v Leeds is statistically the same- 100%.. Yes you won in 2006 but times change. I'm not worried about the cuban missile crisis anymore, (it was still 8 years after we won!). You're rubbish now, face it.
I'm gutted about tonight. Joking aside, I do hope you get everything sorted at Saints again. It's great to have a bit of rivalry. I'm sure you'll be a better side next year your new signings. That prop looks good and Matty Smith would be good with an emerging Fages.
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"Because we have under achieved yet we have still won more than your lot in the last 3 years. Your the only club constantly paying large transfer fees yet you win nothing its embarrasing. You keep saying you have a fantastic club and squad you failed to even make the top 4 the last 2 years.
Forget trophies or how poor we play id take cunningham being our coach for the next 10 years and us win nothing than be assosiated with your club and sh*tty town. Absolutely vile fans and your whole town stinks of people walking round thinking there of higher class. Truth is its a shi##ole. Enjoy your night mate, i am.'"
Never mind take, I'd love it if Cunningham was at your caravan for 10 years. And you never paid large transfer fees? (Mcmanaus). And yes our fans stink of higher class because they use deodorant.
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| Quote ="Gazwire"I guess 5/5 losses v Leeds is statistically the same- 100%.. Yes you won in 2006 but times change. I'm not worried about the cuban missile crisis anymore, (it was still 8 years after we won!). You're rubbish now, face it.
I'm gutted about tonight. Joking aside, I do hope you get everything sorted at Saints again. It's great to have a bit of rivalry. I'm sure you'll be a better side next year your new signings. That prop looks good and Matty Smith would be good with an emerging Fages.'"
I don't think you've got a yardstick to measure against at the moment, our Leeds losses knocked us down to a 40% success rate (GF), its strange that the form teams this year in Hull and Warrington both have zero success rate and 100% failure as far as the ultimate yardstick of super league champions is concerned.
Our problem here at Saints is that we have not had a decent pair of half backs working together for the past 9 years, hence the lack of creativity and open play. We are "grinders" but will always be competitive especially as the standard of super league falls year by year.
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| As a Wigan fan I hope this thread beats the Joints voluntary tackle thread way back in 2002!!!!! 
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| Quote ="Gazwire"Never mind take, I'd love it if Cunningham was at your caravan for 10 years. And you never paid large transfer fees? (Mcmanaus). And yes our fans stink of higher class because they use deodorant.'"
When we paid large transfer fees we won titles.
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| There's always fun and games with the Wire and Stains Mr Frisk.
They're a big club with great success, but some on here, not all, like to belittle the Wire. They've taken the out of us for a good few years, perhaps rightly so, but the shoe is on the other foot now. If they hadn't taken the so much, then we'd be ok. They're still trying to take the even though they've done f all bar the jammy GF win in recent years. We don't try and laugh at other clubs misfortunes like they did at our club. But the tide is turning. They were laughing at us when we attempted to buy Sandow. The day after they announced Dominique Peyroux. The thing is, I have no problem with any club signing anyone, but, if you're taking the , then expect it back. And that Sandow Peyroux thing was perfect. Saints fans taking the as usual saying no chance of signing Sandow and what how could we, the 'minnows'' Warrington sign someone like that. We got him and the day after they signed Peyroux. It was funny in Wire quarters. We're generally good fans and will always give credit where it's due. But when someone takes the for years, it's lovely when when things are reversed.
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"When we paid large transfer fees we won titles.'"
So why did someone on here ask who had paid for our transfers in a derogatory way?
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Not much of a disappointment for the majority of saints fans, our team has been playing well below par for 2 seasons now and going back 10 weeks we shouldn't have been anywhere near the play offs.
Warrington were better than us last night but wasn't a convincing win due to the controversial aspects in the game.
It will be a welcome change to have a new name on the super league trophy but if Warrington lose another final it will be far more devastating than us losing a semi that realistically was a game too far for us.'"
How true.
You must be a physic
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| Quote ="St pete"Not sure on our youth development?
Off the top of my head - lomax, Makinson, Percival, swift, Jamie Foster, Lee gaskell, Jamie Ellis, Chris dean, Wellington, ashworth, Jamie Ellis, Eastmond, James Graham, James Roby, Keiron Cunningham, Paul Wellens, Greenwood, Thompson, Wheeler, Richards, Knowles, emm it, Josh Jones, savilo, dixon, Ashurst, tyrer, Armstrong
That's just off top my head so we not done bad'"
Matty Smith !! 
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