I think you are over reacting on a few counts. Where you at the match by the way!

Maybe. Saints just annoy me when they play like that without any justification and throw away two valuable league points in the process. There were too many good players on that pitch last night for that level of performance to be justified.


Alas, yes.

No one player played particularly well, in fact the overwhelming majority of them were awful, does this warrant two 'Potter Out' threads? No. I'm a big believer that once the players cross the whitewash it is their responsibility for what happens on the pitch, sure the coach can give them orders or demand changes but its down to the players to follow through with these.

Getting a bit sick of people automatically reverting to blaming the coach when the truth is we didn't do the basics, or play as a team against a more determined and well drilled side on the night.

This isn't a Potter out thread though, he's already gone. It was a thread questioning his appointment in the first place.

The fact that the players went out and put in such a performance, lacking in motivation and enthusiasm, is at the end of the day the ultimate responsibility of the coach. The players have proved time and time again they have no bond with him or will to win for him. In the past previous coaches would have been able to inspire the team to win games like that, even if it took a rousing second half 10 minutes to pull us clear. A lack of motivation and determination is a classic failing of the team under Potter.

It's just not worked.

I agree that potter might have been wrong choice to coach saints but he's done ok with injuries this year and has had to blood alot of young lads this year.

It is prob good for both potter and saints that he's going at the end of the year as he just don't fit in at saints, he's just not right for job but I think he's a ok coach.

The players shouldn't need to be inspired by potter or get fired up by potter, every time they cross that line they should show heart and pride in the the shirt!

They know saints fans pay there hard earned cash to watch them, they are well paid for playing the game they love.

If they need a coach to get them up to play for saints then maybe they shouldn't be here.

The recent game against Wigan would suggest otherwise - a true display of will to win. I guess you'll say they didn't win it for the coach - typical response when a team wins, then they lose because they aren't playing for the coach.

When we had one fit half and our organising hooker at Wigan we won. When we had one fit half and no organising hooker against Leeds we were in front until that one fit half got injured. When we had no fit halves and no organising hooker against Catalans (with a full debutant and a back rower returning after 2 months injured filling in) we look, err, disorganised. Funny that.

You should know by now that players win games but coaches lose them.

Spot on, agree entirely.

So you're saying that because you were missing influential players who organise your team on the field, that's why you lost?

You crazy fool you.

Does Mick want to leave now for Odsal now that Macbanana has left?

I'll ring the club and offer him a lift.