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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Adrian Shelford'"
He hadn't signed a legal contract though had he? Willie has and I'm sure the contracts players sign in the modern era are far more watertight than they were in the 80's.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"He hadn't signed a legal contract though had he? Willie has and I'm sure the contracts players sign in the modern era are far more watertight than they were in the 80's.'"
He had signed a contract which is why it went to the high court, at great expense, and allegedly cost is Connolly, or so tge urban myths say.....
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| As Hull fans, know he is not staying as Pearson announced it and he also implicated Saints in his statement. Then it will make little difference to Hull fans whether it is official or not.
If they were going to boo it would be done now regardless as he is officially not staying. It may help that Hull are playing well. If Warrington had been flying in the table at the time of the transfer to Saints Warrington Fans may not have been so concerned either. Also distance plays a part. Going from Hull to Leeds would be more difficult to swallow than Hull to Saints.
Similar for Wire. If Fozzard had signed for Leeds, Bradford, Wire fans would have been far less bothered than a local rival.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"As Hull fans, know he is not staying as Pearson announced it and he also implicated Saints in his statement. Then it will make little difference to Hull fans whether it is official or not.
If they were going to boo it would be done now regardless as he is officially not staying. It may help that Hull are playing well. If Warrington had been flying in the table at the time of the transfer to Saints Warrington Fans may not have been so concerned either. Also distance plays a part. Going from Hull to Leeds would be more difficult to swallow than Hull to Saints.
Similar for Wire. If Fozzard had signed for Leeds, Bradford, Wire fans would have been far less bothered than a local rival.'"
Put it this way, mr Fozzard wasn't happy at all!
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| It seems to be common knowledge on these boards and on the terraces that he's signed for us, so I can't see why there would be a sudden burst of uproar if Saints did announce his signature.
The Hull fans that I have spoken to seem to have (well before the surfacing of this 'rumour') accepted that he's off.
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| Quote ="Albion"It seems to be common knowledge on these boards and on the terraces that he's signed for us, so I can't see why there would be a sudden burst of uproar if Saints did announce his signature.
The Hull fans that I have spoken to seem to have (well before the surfacing of this 'rumour') accepted that he's off.'"
I don't see what difference it would make to either club or player. Hull know he's leaving, saints know he's coming, he knows he's a saint and that's all that need to know.
I don't think the player wants it announced to be honest, we've still got to face them in super league and maybe in the play offs and it just adds pressure in him.
At the end of the day, nobody needs to announce it until after 1st September and I wouldnt be shocked if that's the case.
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| I started this thread ages ago now and all at fc had accepted the fact that willie was to move on, it does not mean we are not gutted, but we have accepted it. I personally feel that its professional to announce it after the season is over and not before, it shows a lack of respect for your current employers and followers to do it any other way. I wish him well and can whole heartily say you have enlisted one hell of a player who gives his all every match. 
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"He had signed a contract which is why it went to the high court, at great expense, and allegedly cost is Connolly, or so tge urban myths say.....'"
It was Andy Platt what it cost us.
Adrian Shathead had actually signed the RFL registration form for Saints, with the contract to follow. But wi*an nipped in, offered him more, and he signed their contract. Saints (and their lawyers) believed the signing of the RFL registration constituted the de facto acceptance of a contract. And, of course, lost. This was in the day when wi*an would buy a player as much to deny a rival team having them, as it was because the wi*an team needed that player.
I'll hate them till I die.
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| Quote ="Webbo"It was Andy Platt what it cost us.
Adrian Shathead had actually signed the RFL registration form for Saints, with the contract to follow. But wi*an nipped in, offered him more, and he signed their contract. Saints (and their lawyers) believed the signing of the RFL registration constituted the de facto acceptance of a contract. And, of course, lost. This was in the day when wi*an would buy a player as much to deny a rival team having them, as it was because the wi*an team needed that player.
I'll hate them till I die.'"
Bit more to it than that. Clegg(saints director)was called a totally unreliable witness by the high court judge.
Buffoons that lot.
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| If he's signed, who cares if it's announced now or on 1st September?
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| Looks like Rogues was right with his post about an ex SL player resigning from Union. Wigan have resigned Thornley - probably as a replacement for Carmont.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"No chance for Manu. His form do far this season has been poor.
Houghton has been Hull's best player for me.'"
Interesting comment from a Hull fan about Manu, especially given his team has actually started performing this year. I hope he's not in decline already... 
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| Quote ="Webbo"It was Andy Platt what it cost us.
Adrian Shathead had actually signed the RFL registration form for Saints, with the contract to follow. But wi*an nipped in, offered him more, and he signed their contract. Saints (and their lawyers) believed the signing of the RFL registration constituted the de facto acceptance of a contract. And, of course, lost. This was in the day when wi*an would buy a player as much to deny a rival team having them, as it was because the wi*an team needed that player.
I'll hate them till I die.'"
Yes indeed, but look on the bright side: those years of stealing players and trophies mean that they now have second billing in someone else's stadium to some chav's wedding for their biggest "home" game of the season. It can't help but make me laugh every time I think of it - overall the decade of pain was worth it 
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| I got told today that saints have put the deal on ice on the say so of Nathan Brown.
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| Quote ="St pete"I got told today that saints have put the deal on ice on the say so of Nathan Brown.'"
Reputation on the line considering you have promised us he was signed sealed and delivered months ago!
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Reputation on the line considering you have promised us he was signed sealed and delivered months ago!'"
I was told by a player by txt this morning it's been put on ice, another player told me weeks ago that McManus, Brown and Manu met one Sunday afternoon and did the deal.
What's going on I don't know, maybe pen wasn't put to paper but was agreed? I just don't know!
Something going on tho or maybe the txt I got today is wrong?
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Reputation on the line considering you have promised us he was signed sealed and delivered months ago!'"
Reputation on the line, that's a little harsh, 99% of the things I've told on here have been true so far.
If I throw a dog a bone, I don't want to know if it tastes good or not.
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| Quote ="St pete"Reputation on the line, that's a little harsh, 99% of the things I've told on here have been true so far.
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Like what?
All I see are 10 posts a day about commings and goings yet none ever seem to happen.
You are like the sun newspaper, make up enough "exclusives" and law of averages will say you get one right eventually
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| Quote ="Saint77777"Like what?
All I see are 10 posts a day about commings and goings yet none ever seem to happen.
You are like the sun newspaper, make up enough "exclusives" and law of averages will say you get one right eventually'"
Team news, I used to post the team two days before until it got me in trouble, still pm it to certain people.
First with the Laffranchi signing. First to say Moore was going, well before any rumours even started. First to post eastmond had got injured and not playing in tge the CC final. First to post that pryce had got seroius neck injury. First to say josh jones was making his debut etc
That sort of stuff MR happy!
I'm sure most on here can vouch for my info being correct.

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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Reputation on the line considering you have promised us he was signed sealed and delivered months ago!'"
I was told at the game yesterday that Brown does not want Manu and that Hull have already lined a player up, so no chance of him resigning for Hull.
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| Quote ="Saint77777"Like what?
All I see are 10 posts a day about commings and goings yet none ever seem to happen.
You are like the sun newspaper, make up enough "exclusives" and law of averages will say you get one right eventually'"
Pete normally gets things right. His team selections are pretty close and the transfer stuff is usually accurate too. Dont confuse his wish list with when he post something as about to happen ...
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Pete normally gets things right. His team selections are pretty close and the transfer stuff is usually accurate too. Dont confuse his wish list with when he post something as about to happen ...'"
As I posted in the rumours thread before, I've been told he's signed by one player and told its now on ice by another.
So I don't know what's going on, the guy that told me he'd signed as never once been wrong yet but I'd also expect t the player player to be in the loop.
I can say for 100% fact that McManus, Brown and Manu met few Sunday's back (I was told the deal was agreed there and then)
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| Quote ="St pete"Reputation on the line, that's a little harsh, 99% of the things I've told on here have been true so far.
If I throw a dog a bone, I don't want to know if it tastes good or not.'"
Was joking, I know you are ( usually!) spot on
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Was joking, I know you are ( usually!) spot on'"
We just going to have to wait until its officially confirmed where he's going.
If saints have pulled out at this stage then IMO it's shocking, we've basically left him in limbo after he was prepared to up his family and move to saints.
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| When i first read about the possibility of Manu signing i was somewhat put out due to his age, and i must admit its still nags away at the back of my mind that we may be getting a player who is over the hill so to speak.
However i also remember the signing of another 32 year old forward Kevin Ward. Who had a real indian summer with Saints.
Looking at Manu's stats this year they are better than any other Saints forward.
Soliola for example is our top tackle buster in the pack with 25, Manu has made 60, which is way better than our best players stats.
Manu has also made 9 clean breaks which is more than any other Saints player bar James Roby who has 10.
Interestingly the top clean break merchant at Hull is Jordan Turner with 12. A player Saints are also rumoured to be after.
Manu is also hard working in defence being one of the top 4 tacklers at Hull, while being a clean player when it comes to giving away penalties. 15 other players at hull have been worse for giving away penalties.
He also loves to offload with 30 so far this season. Thats 10 more than Roby at Saints and more than double the next best player at Saints. He is in the top 10 in SL for offloading.
If Manu does sign for Saints then even if he starts to drop off a bit in performance. He will still be better than any of the forwards we currently have.
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