Shouldn't Mr McManus ask questions of the Saints medical staff as to why a player was allowed to play for 78 minutes with a triple fracture of the cheek? I don't think the hand off to Burns by Dixon when he scored his try will have helped the injury.

Maybe they'd left their portable x-ray machine back at Langtree Park by mistake.

You'll be disappointed more often than happy then.

I suppose that is a possibility. I do know from experience that a Doctor can diagnose a facial fracture pretty accurately without the aid of an X-ray machine.

But he can only go off what Burns tells him, if he constantly played down pain levels, and didn't react to various pokes and prods, it's incredibly difficult

Bottom line for me is that it was an obvious head shot so Burns should have been taken off the field and examined properly in the quiet of the dressing room. With a blow to the head if he gets back on within 15 minutes then it doesn't count in the interchange score. That's why this new rule was brought in and doctors should be strong enough to enforce it. A quick prod and poke whilst the game continues is just not good enough.

You'll probably find it's posts like this from Saints fans over the last few days that have got our backs up.

To add context you should post the link to the thread with some of the rubbish your lot posted, also take a peek over on Cherry and White (sadly) and take a look further down the list on this forum for a gloating thread made by one of your clowns called foorrrward or something to that effect.

Being honest losing to HKR is an irritant , as long as we are in the running for trophies come season end (which we normally are) I and most Saints fans won't care one bit about this loss. What has wound us up is that one of your props (who admitted he didnt like Burns apparently - so decide yourself if it was intentional) took out a key player for us for an extended period with a late and very dirty hit for which he didnt get sent off then got an insulting 1 match ban.

If you don't like what were saying you might be better off sticking to the HKR board and arguing with your good friends over the other side of your city

As usual McManus has spoken very well on a frustrating situation, hopefully the RFL will start taking notice of their inconsistency. No doubt Green should have received 3 or 4 matches as others in the past have.

Your simply guessing there unless of course you are a surgeon who has seen his x-rays and scans. It's just as likely it made no difference at all other than hurting like hell.

Bottom line for me is that it was an obvious head shot so Burns should have been taken off the field and examined properly in the quiet of the dressing room. With a blow to the head if he gets back on within 15 minutes then it doesn't count in the interchange score. That's why this new rule was brought in and doctors should be strong enough to enforce it. A quick prod and poke whilst the game continues is just not good enough.

It's fair shout but the players themselves need to take some responsibility. Doctors should be able to tell the referee to order a player off if their being difficult, they've made it in football now that a doctor can't be overruled by a manager or coach

Except it only doesn't count if the ref puts it on report ... Which, as discussed, at length, he didn't. It is also only applicable if concussion is the diagnosis. Which it wasn't.

The doctors would have had a full opportunity to examine at half time, with no need to interchange, but they can only go off what Burns tells them

Spot on Aldy! Within 5 minutes of it happening I was 99% certain he'd fractured his facial bones;the other 1% was for an x-ray to confirm how bad it was!The medical staff had a duty of care to Travis even if he was reluctant to come off wth adrenaline pumping through his veins.

I reckon the best thing to do is to leave it to the saints players if they see it as intention to injure Burns. Just wait until HKR come to Langtree Park and when Green arrives "gang tackle" him with legal challenges to the ribs, you never know he might not survive the onslaught to carry on in the game.