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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Stephen Myler, one of the test players to play in SL is heading towards an England cap. Maybe it is only the decent players that have trouble handling the 'technicalities'.
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For technicalities substitute kicking.

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As gut wrenching as it seems, its folly to throw stupid money at him when he's still unproven, regardless of his potential. If a RU club (many of whom are reportadly struggling financially) want to spend extra to poach the odd talent, then let them. There'll be another Kyle eastmond.

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Quote: Offside Monkey "As gut wrenching as it seems, its folly to throw stupid money at him when he's still unproven, regardless of his potential. If a RU club (many of whom are reportadly struggling financially) want to spend extra to poach the odd talent, then let them. There'll be another Kyle eastmond.'"

With you all the way, we don't want to be held ransom by an agent, if he thinks he can do better than what has been offered (trust in Mc) crack on fella, go and get it, nobody is bigger than our club.
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I would be relatively happy with Moore at 7 for a season, before moving to 9 when the King goes. Eastmond certainly can't play any important role within the team if he's on his way. Moore has also yet to commit beyond 2010 though...

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I really don't know what the fuss is, it's just an agent trying to get the best deal for his client. The agent is good at getting made up stories into the MEN and spreading rumours. That's his job. I'm sure McManus is wise to this sort of thing.

I really don't know why people get upset about these things. It will only get more so in the future as more agents become more media savvy.

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Quote: donkey O'tay "I really don't know what the fuss is, it's just an agent trying to get the best deal for his client. The agent is good at getting made up stories into the MEN and spreading rumours. That's his job. I'm sure McManus is wise to this sort of thing.

I really don't know why people get upset about these things. It will only get more so in the future as more agents become more media savvy.'"


I am sure Big Mac texts young offiah, sending him a smiley face and a few words like "haha nice one chariots, but the offer still stands, £50k first year, £65k 2nd year and £80k 3rd year and a few £if he get sa gig for GB".... then sends another text about 2 mins later saying "there was a blak man, a white man, and wigooner stood at a bus stop, and the wigooner turns the black fella and says " ......

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Quote: donkey O'tay "I really don't know what the fuss is, it's just an agent trying to get the best deal for his client. The agent is good at getting made up stories into the MEN and spreading rumours. That's his job. I'm sure McManus is wise to this sort of thing.

I really don't know why people get upset about these things. It will only get more so in the future as more agents become more media savvy.'"


It's Wigooners wanting us to get all hyped up in the same manner in which they did over Ashton. They expect us to be hypocritical and place the blame for any depatures at the foot of the salary cap. What they don't realise is that we are able to view the salary cap for what it is and not for what they perceive it to be. In their opinion we should be storming the gates of the RFL demanding a change to the cap in the same way they have been harping on about incessantly for the past decade. They can't understand why we aren't responding in the same petulant and ill-conceived way in which many of them have and do. Please note this is not all Wigooners just the short-sighted ones.

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Quote: McClennan "It's Wigooners wanting us to get all hyped up in the same manner in which they did over Ashton'"


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How do you come to that conclusion based off the MEN article and this thread?

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If it's true drop him for the rest of the season be that 1 match or two, let him go now and get a transfer fee.

If Saints can't get a transfer fee, drop him to the reserves for the entire 2010 season.

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Quote: Lobby "If it's true drop him for the rest of the season be that 1 match or two, let him go now and get a transfer fee.

If Saints can't get a transfer fee, drop him to the reserves for the entire 2010 season.'"


Agreed.

If he isn't going to be here in 2011 then we have no loyalty to him. If he is going then put him in the reserves for the year.

Bring Back Matty!

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Quote: McClennan "It's Wigooners wanting us to get all hyped up in the same manner in which they did over Ashton. They expect us to be hypocritical and place the blame for any depatures at the foot of the salary cap. What they don't realise is that we are able to view the salary cap for what it is and not for what they perceive it to be. In their opinion we should be storming the gates of the RFL demanding a change to the cap in the same way they have been harping on about incessantly for the past decade. They can't understand why we aren't responding in the same petulant and ill-conceived way in which many of them have and do. Please note this is not all Wigooners just the short-sighted ones.'"


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The fact that the initial suggestion that Eastmond was even contemplating going to Yawnion was made by Rogues Gallery i.e. a desperate attempt to undermine Saints via some messageboard comments, which is where most RL transfer stories come from these days e.g. McGoldrick to Wigoon. There's even one from yesterday about Maurie going to Harlequins RL even though he's just moved into a new house in the area. It's nothing new. In the early years of Super League there was constant rumour-mongering started on messageboards by Wigooners about Cunningham going to join Wigoon. He's still here.

The sooner people realise that most of this talk is just rubbish set in motion in public houses and asylums for the mentally insane the better. I mean, I heard a rumour that Maurie was complaining about Potter stifling his natural game yet the guy has improved no end on the back of cutting out the silly 'natural' aspects of his game.

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Quote: McClennan "The fact that the initial suggestion that Eastmond was even contemplating going to Yawnion was made by Rogues Gallery i.e. a desperate attempt to undermine Saints via some messageboard comments, which is where most RL transfer stories come from these days e.g. McGoldrick to Wigoon. There's even one from yesterday about Maurie going to Harlequins RL even though he's just moved into a new house in the area. It's nothing new. In the early years of Super League there was constant rumour-mongering started on messageboards by Wigooners about Cunningham going to join Wigoon. He's still here.

The sooner people realise that most of this talk is just rubbish set in motion in public houses and asylums for the mentally insane the better. I mean, I heard a rumour that Maurie was complaining about Potter stifling his natural game yet the guy has improved no end on the back of cutting out the silly 'natural' aspects of his game.'"


Yes, there's lots of rumours on forums but fact that some make regional and national media isn't solely down to the odd Wigan supporter posting on RLFANS.

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Quote: ABP' "Yes, there's lots of rumours on forums but fact that some make regional and national media isn't solely down to the odd Wigan supporter posting on RLFANS.

That's ridiculous, Mike.
It is ridiculous which is why I didn't say that. I mentioned in this thread which was related to Eastmond and IIRC the Eastmond rumour was nothing until someone heard from someone at some function about it i.e. where nothing could be verified or evidenced. Due to said poster having reasonable credibility it somehow transformed into fact. Completely barmy and some Saints fans should hang their heads in shame for believing everything that anyone posts on a messageboard.

It is not uncommon in British RL for rumours to be banded about on RL messageboards that suddenly appear in newspapers both real truths and half-d wind-ups. Throw into that agents working overtime to try and generate extra column inches and wages for their players and you have gossip running amok.

I keep referring to the Cunningham one because it is a classic. First it appears as a throwaway post on a messageboard or overheard in a pub conversation. Next it's gossip amongst the season ticket holder types and then a couple of weeks later my dad has heard it at his pub and before you know it, it's in the press and formal statements are being made about it. Ridiculous.

I can cope with all that, however some people can't and in their quest to satisfy themselves with the latest gossip they increase their gullability susceptibility tenfold.

I can't say if there's any truth in the Eastmond rumours, however it's funny that it starts from a Wigoon poster with no evidence other than "I heard from someone" during the middle of the season when the guy still has another year to run on his contract. Now unless Sale are looking to buy him off us there's no reason why they'd be sniffing around Eastmond at this stage. I suggest that the original post about this might even have been influenced by the fact that Eastmond is small, nippy and black which means he's like Jason Robinson so Sale would be interested in him. Complete madness and he's reeled hundreds in off it whether intentional or not. It's existential trolling of the highest order and I have to salute that. Only Ellery Hanley could have done better.

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SL 20 LondonB12-10Catalans
WSL2024 10 FeatherstoneW6-68LeedsW
WSL2024 10 BarrowW6-64St.HelensW
WSL2024 10 Wire W0-61York V
WSL2024 10 WiganW70-0Hudds W
L1 18 Keighley72-12Newcastle
L1 18 Oldham32-0Midlands
L1 18 Rochdale46-32Cornwall
L1 18 Workington24-28Crusaders
CH 20 Barrow24-24Bradford
CH 20 Dewsbury16-42Wakefield
CH 20 Featherstone24-16Batley
CH 20 Halifax38-18York
CH 20 Sheffield22-20Doncaster
CH 20 Whitehaven12-24Widnes
NRL 22 Penrith22-14Newcastle
NRL 22 Canterbury22-18Canberra
Sat 3rd Aug
SL 20 Hull FC6-46St.Helens
SL 20 Salford22-16Leeds
CH 20 Swinton4-48Toulouse
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Wigan 19 495 258 237 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Salford 20 377 382 -5 26
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 20 376 286 90 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 19 392 286 106 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 20 210 735 -525 4
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 18 626 222 404 34
Sheffield 18 510 303 207 26
Toulouse 17 516 224 292 25
Widnes 18 434 319 115 23
Bradford 18 421 321 100 22
Featherstone 18 464 375 89 18
 
Doncaster 18 338 432 -94 17
York 19 446 383 63 16
Batley 18 300 390 -90 16
Halifax 18 356 477 -121 14
Barrow 17 279 482 -203 13
Swinton 18 346 470 -124 12
Whitehaven 18 348 580 -232 12
Dewsbury 19 240 602 -362 2
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