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| Just because the Catalan player waves his arm in the air everyone thinks he played for the ball when in truth he never got anywhere near it.
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| Quote ="St pete"I think it was 100% try. How the video ref can't give a try when he can watch it over and over in slow motion is unreal.'"
I was watching it in my adopted town with a few dozen dire fans and they all agreed that when the catalan player went up for the ball he gave a nudge in the side of the saints player altering his upwards projection.
They reluctantly agreed it cannot be a try (ALL OF THEM) and they were right.
Believe me none of them were wanting us to win so no red and white specs were worn.
I don't know how you can make the statement above when most of warrington saw it as a no try?
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| If it was a game with no Video ref, then I agree 9 times out of 10 it will be a try. But the video ref changes so many tries and no tries as you can see things that in real time look like a fluff by makinson. But once you see it back on the video, the reason he misses is down to being moved off the ball. Like I said fair enough if he was anywhere near the ball, but he's basically just running in.
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| Quote ="jeramiah"I see you were watching through red & white coloured glasses as well,2 catalans good catalans tries not given and 1 saints try with a 2 metre forward pass| KEEP BELIEVING'"
Something wrong with your eye's mate,get to spacsavers.Save your childish remarks for kindergarten.
Great game ,could have gone either way.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Meli running through in attack and the ref gives a penalty to catalan.'"
He evened that up with the Blanch penalty. Yes he moved off the mark, everyone does, but Hohaia was all over him.
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| earlier in the game they said meli touched the ball which led to a catalan try.
what a load of cobblers no way did that ball catch melis hand.
and just what was the penalty count at the end of the game then?.
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"earlier in the game they said meli touched the ball which led to a catalan try.
what a load of cobblers no way did that ball catch melis hand.
and just what was the penalty count at the end of the game then?.'"
I didn't think it touched him until about the 8th replay but I think it glances the back of his hand. VERY harsh call though.
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| Quote ="Conroy"I didn't think it touched him until about the 8th replay but I think it glances the back of his hand. VERY harsh call though.'"
Eh? The ball touched his hand, from the instant it happend it was obvious not harsh at all. Harsh is the disallowed try at the end, if the try wasn't scored it would have been a drop out most likely, or would people expect a penalty for this?
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| Didn't like the decision when he said a saints player grounded the ball in goal and he gave a drop out. He fell when catching the ball jumping from the field of play and a Catalan player touched him slightly before he hit the fall and overshot him to me you have to be intentionally grounding the ball, He should have been allowed to carry on and run the ball out. But must admit quite a few big decisions where wrong and he should be in the dock for this as two weeks running now.
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| Quote ="St pete"Let's just say I enjoyed it, my mates enjoyed and every saints fan did.'"
That wasn't the question.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"That wasn't the question.'"
How can I know what everyone else thought of the game? Idiot!
I enjoyed it and the last 15 mins was exciting and edge of your seat stuff.
How did Warrington do in France in the super league?
I sense you fear us now, you know we are coming for you and as history proves, you'll choke in the play offs again.
"This will be your year, this will be your year, just like the last one, this will be your year"
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| I believe that bad refereeing is adversely affecting our game. Once more Popeye the Thaler-man demonstrates another gem of miss judgment, a red card for what at the very worst was a yellow was just one more of a long list of howling mistakes, errors and bad calls this term. There is way too much grand-standing by match officials who seem hell bent on causing controversy, and as for the Dewsbury Dewdrop to say he thinks that Thaler is one of the best referees this season, well, I Know thatโs no recommendation, but what a numpty! This match was another Thaler, plus video ref farce! And only stubborn under-stains and ostriches would argue.
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| Quote ="St pete"
"This will be your year, this will be your year, just like the last one, this will be your year" '"
Is this [uYOUR [/uHare Krishna mantra?
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| Quote ="St pete"How can I know what everyone else thought of the game? Idiot!
I enjoyed it and the last 15 mins was exciting and edge of your seat stuff.
How did Warrington do in France in the super league?
I sense you fear us now, you know we are coming for you and as history proves, you'll choke in the play offs again.
"This will be your year, this will be your year, just like the last one, this will be your year"
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I will type this slowly, with a little emphasis, as you are obviously hard of thinking. "YOU think that was a top-class game?"
To address other aspects of your ramblings:
Warrington did rather poorly in against Catalans in their away SL fixture. They did, however, return a matter of weeks later and rectify their previous poor showing.
Do you really want to converse about choking in play-offs?
I will quite happily take our year being Challenge Cup wins and finishing top of the pile. Are you happy with 'your year' consistently being de-constructed in a final? A fait accompli, if you will.
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| Millard clearly pushes Mackinson,move on.
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| Isn't it strange weve not heard anything from the wolves fans this year and suddenly they start posting on here.
Anyone would think they are starting to fear us
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| Quote ="St pete"Isn't it strange weve not heard anything from the wolves fans this year and suddenly they start posting on here.
Anyone would think they are starting to fear us'"
Of course they do. Some of the more bitter Wire trolls will be on here again soon posting propaganda and drivel like when they became the 'challenge cup champions' in a desperate attempt to get the title 'champions' because they havn't been real champions since the 1950's
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Of course they do. Some of the more bitter Wire trolls will be on here again soon posting propaganda and drivel like when they became the 'challenge cup champions'
in a desperate attempt to get the title 'champions' because they havn't been real champions since the 1950's'"
If I was a Warrington fan I'd be worried, it's a old team now and they seem to be on the slide to what they was last year.
If don't win it this year then I can't see them doing it anytime soon.
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| They wouldn't have kicked the goal anyway, (would they!!!!)
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| I thought there was alot of dodgy decisions both for and against us.
I have no problem with the moving off the mark decision, but it needs to be enforced more often, too many times ref allow players to gain ground unfairly. The ruck is often in favour of the attacking player regardless of how they act. For mine the Catalan player did move off the mark, he stood up with Lance on his back, Lance did not have chance to even move it was that quick anyone thinking Lance could have done anything else has simply never tackled anyone. To regain your feet you have to be able to push up of the ground. But similarly when Lance conned the ref earlier on I thought that was moving off the mark, he deliberately dove between the players legs, the player could not do anything other than stand over Lance given that he was throwing himself down.
At one point Meli had moved so far off the mark he voluntarily went back about 5m as even he could not believe that they would allow such a rediculous amount of yards gained. Ironically if he had not gone back himself no doubt the ref would have just told him to play it where he ended up.
Yes Defended can lay on at the play the ball, but attackers for mine get far too much advantage in this area and can mess about just as much. Does anyone ever see a foot touch a ball any more?????
I'm not sure how they can tidy this up, but it can get a right mess at times.
Also there was a kick off which went out on the full. Now is it just me, but did not Meli catch the ball before it hit the ground???? I thought this was now deamed as the attacking players making the ball dead, regardless of how far over the line the ball is, it has to hit the ground before the player can catch the ball.
Should have been a penalty to Catalans surely by the current rules? Or is it litterally only for taking the ball out of play over the dead ball line and not the touch line.
I could go on, not sure whether meli touched the ball in flight either, not sure the catalan player charged down the lomax kick, etc etc etc
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| Quote ="Benidorm John"They wouldn't have kicked the goal anyway, (would they!!!!)
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and it was not the last play, who knows what the up shot would have been after that, a short kick off a penalty a drop goal, a missed conversion. Like I said in a normal game it would be a try, but on the video the catalan player obviously moved makinsons flight for the ball and gets nowhere near the ball himself. A good reason why we should have videos at all or none of the matches, as that decision was based soley on having the video, it's not a decision that can be made the naked eye.
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| Quote ="St pete"How can I know what everyone else thought of the game? Idiot!
I enjoyed it and the last 15 mins was exciting and edge of your seat stuff.
How did Warrington do in France in the super league?
I sense you fear us now, you know we are coming for you and as history proves, you'll choke in the play offs again.
"This will be your year, this will be your year, just like the last one, this will be your year"
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A lot like St Helens in the last 5 yrs!!
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| Quote ="jarvis12345"A lot like St Helens in the last 5 yrs!!'"
No, we choke in the final but you have to be in them to win them.
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| I think it was the timing of the jump that led to the decision. Makinson was in the air and Millard hit him a split second before jumping. If they'd have collided in midair then it would have been given. Having said that, I thought it was harsh - I'd have had no complaints had it been given.
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| Quote ="St pete"Isn't it strange weve not heard anything from the wolves fans this year and suddenly they start posting on here.
Anyone would think they are starting to fear us'"
Again; what solitary facet of yesterday's game was there to strike feat into anyone?
Have you concluded the reasoning behind your 'top class' comment, yet?
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