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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "Yes... You're right! rlhttps://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1'" oh dear
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| Its true that defences have tightened up around the ruck area, so Roby doesnt get as much space as in the past. However he still is an extremely effective hooker, infact
He is making on average 113 metres a game this year which is his second best average.
The top is 2007 when he made 127 metres a game.
Therefore in many respects, i think people have got used to see him make breaks so take them for granted, and conclude that he isnt playing too well.
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| kc as a prop next year?
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| Quote: saintcj "kc as a prop next year?'"
I've often called for that. I can't see how he'd do a bad job. He's got the size and would have more speed than he would need for a prop, he's made yards through covering the ground quicker than most props and his upper body strength is legendary.
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| i think that its only going to take one brave ref to start giving penalties for holding down before all the other refs follow and it starts to speed up again so roby could well be perfect for us in the near future!
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| Quote: Saddened! "I've often called for that. I can't see how he'd do a bad job. He's got the size and would have more speed than he would need for a prop, he's made yards through covering the ground quicker than most props and his upper body strength is legendary.'"
The only problem is, it wastes his key qualities of leadership and organisation at the ruck.
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| Quote: (Saint) "The only problem is, it wastes his key qualities of leadership and organisation at the ruck.'" I dont really agree, planty props lead their team round the pitch i.e morley, peacock and even farrell in his final couple of seasons
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| When Roby started at 9 against Wire, he was instrumental in leading us around the park.
I am not worried.
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| The lads having his first hit and miss season from what i can see- It happens and i'm sure he'll come back all the stronger for it.
He's one of few players that gets me on the verge of shi*ting myself everytime he touches the ball because he's so dangerous.
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| If Cunningham stays on another year and Moore returns, could Roby move back to loose forward, a position he played at academy level?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "If Cunningham stays on another year and Moore returns, could Roby move back to loose forward, a position he played at academy level?'" We're not short of back rowers though, i'd prefer moore and roby as hookers with KC as a rotational prop if he stays, he's strong enough and its an area we need more experience in.
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| Quote: The Blockhead "James Roby was a talented young player, who came into the saints team when the King was on top of his game, we had a dominent pack and the play the ball area was heavily policed......what happens next? - Robes comes on, saints can play the ball quickly and Robes looks like a world beater........
The game has now changed for saints - our pack is less dominent and the play the ball has been slowed down....the King is still the King btw!!
If you look at it objectively, what do saints now get from Roby?
In my opinion, we get a good solid defence (not as effective as the King, but that's a big ask for anyone)............
It's with the ball in hand that he falls short - His runs from dummy half are not as effective as before, when he does make a break he often loses the ball in his haste to play the ball quickly - his passing in general play is average at best and the abilty to put players through a gap, like the King can do, is non existent........
The measure of his input is best taken when he starts - Apart from the name on his shirt, which tells us he is on the pitch, what do we get from him - not a lot unfortunately.......no big hits, no line breaks, no defence splitting passes - in a nutshell, he tackles and passes (often poorly).....
I'm not suggesting it is an attitude issue either, I just don't think he has developed his game sufficiently since coming into the team - I do think, however, that he won the MOS on the back of coming on after the King had done the hard work - it is also difficult to understand how the King has never won the MOS, when he has been the best forward (not just hooker/number 9) in the comp since 1996.........thats another debate tho
idiot!
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| Quote: gillers88 "idiot!'"
Excellent well thought out post Gillers. I predict a bright future for you on here with such wit and reason! Cant wait for your third post.
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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "Yes... You're right!
rlhttps://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1'"
Come on you saints fans on here are knowledgeable enough to know that stats are not everything. McIlorum has not played as much as Roby also.
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