Wheeler was awful in the vast majority of games he played, choosing wrong options, being beat in defence, throwing awful passes. Jones has been consistently very good and has earned his shirt over Wheeler. I don't see your problem, rather just another chance for you to have a pop at rush, unnecessarily in this case.

You need to learn how to read a post.

I said that Wheeler was one of our best players before Simmons was sacked. How was that a comment on Wheeler's performance subsequent to Rush taking over? That's right. It wasn't.

Wheeler's form was great under Simmons. And lots of people on here were also saying Wheeler was one of our standout players at the start of the season, so I wasn't alone in that opinion (for once), not by a long chalk.

Wheeler was dropped by Rush IN SPITE OF being in good form, and replaced by Jones. Wheeler has looked poor in every match he has played since. No surprise really. All our young players from last season have gone backwards under Rush.

But he wasn't though, he had a couple of good games under Royce. He then had a couple of awful games under Rush and was subsequently dropped.

I can assure you I'm perfectly capable of reading your posts, I even managed a dot to dot last night.

But you're wrong though.

You're also incredibly childish.

big big season for mr wheeler next year for me josh jones has been better this year by quite some distance

Wheeler was playing well at time(0) when Rush took over, I agree. He picked up a niggling injury late on against Leeds and subsequently wasn't fit to play against Warrington. This is when Jones took over and played very well when his opportunity came. When Wheeler was back to fitness and came into the squad his form was awful and didn't earn his place back from Jones, rightly so. If you want to continue arguing blindly without presenting any evidence and substance to support your claims then tomorrow I will post all the stats for the relevant games for you to show his dip in form. Just because he was playing well before he got injured, doesn't guarantee his place on return if he plays badly.



A phrase most commonly used by boring people who have their own heads stuffed in a certain orifice. I don't like to conform to the immaturity/maturity badge that society has decided to brand on individuals.

Like I said, Wheeler was dropped by Rush when his form was good. Thanks for finally acknowledging the truth of the matter.

Jones has been better than Wheeler since Rush took over but then he's hardly played and so that wouldn't be difficult.

After accusing me of being unable to read your posts just a moment ago you've not done very well there. Wheeler missed out against Warrington DUE TO INJURY, which is when Jones was selected. Somebody had to play didn't they, or should we have played with 12 players instead? When Wheeler then came back he was poor and didn't warrant a place over Jones. Nowhere in that post or the previous did I state that Wheeler was dropped when his form was good.

Wheeler has gone back this year and has nobody to blame but himself. He's not warranted a place as he's been very very poor.

The game at man city was shocking and I wouldn't have picked him again this season.

He wasn't injured.

Oh yay, I was hoping you would say that.

You're equating Saints saying something with it being the truth.

A bit like how Gaskell was learning his trade in the under 20s. Saints said that was the reason why he was dropped. However, anyone with a modicum of sense knows that having played in a first team grand final, there is nothing, zip, nada that playing in an u20s game can teach a player.

Just because you're a sucker doesn't make what Saints say the truth. But if you want to be a sucker then that is up to you.

Ahh a grand plot and conspiracy theory, just what all RL fans love. Of course that's much much more plausible than an injury prone player simply picking up a knock. I know for a fact he was injured during that point as I know a physio at Saints. No grand scheme like you would wish, however convenient it is to your story. In fact the week after Wigan we played Castleford were Wheeler featured, guess why that was? Because he had recovered from injury.

You're wrong but you won't admit it you never do, instead you'll make up ridiculous stories in order to somehow substantiate your claims when really everybody else just laughs.

Also anybody who has ever played the game knows that appearing in a high profile match does nothing to develop your ability, it exposes you to the big occasions but doesn't develop you as a player. Grand final or not he was still learning his game.

I'm also no sucker, in fact quite the opposite. I always like to back up any claims that are either made by me or told to me by supplying hard evidence to prove the hypothesis. Something which I have done in this thread and can continue to provide if necessary. On the other hand, you have provided no facts/evidence to support your claims other than a wild conspiracy theory which I know with 100% certainty to be incorrect.

Please try again.

Wheeler is pants, what does it matter if he was injured or not?