I wasn't at the game so I listened to it on Radio Merseyside and have watched the highlights..

It seems from the commentary we were completely hopeless for the first 25 mins and then we sort of woke up.

After that our attacking threat was good for the rest of the match but our defence was as dire as ever (Turner & Vea missing soft one on ones) with a lot of soft tries. The one that stands out was near the end when we went for a short kick off which was caught by an Hull player who demolished Turners weak attempt to tackle him and then goes over.

The ref sounded terrible and contrary to what the Hull fans on here say, the ref was definitely a homer. The crowd were very vocal and on his back all the time to penalize us.
The commentators were going nuts about the pen count, saying the ref marched us back 10, then took another step backwards and then calling off side. The also felt that the LMS pen near the end was a fair one on one ball steal.

I don't know as I wasn't there but a pen count of 2-12 seems extreme given that both teams are almost identical for giving away pens for the season and I can see why KC wasn't happy.
It also looked like our 1st try came off a slightly forward pass.

You really struggled with our ruck speed, like all teams have in the last few weeks and the only way to combat it was to try and slow us down, luckily for us Hewer was on it and you paid the price.

We also had two try's disallowed, would have to see them again, but your 3rd shouldn't have stood.

You played some good fast rugby, but individual players defence(Vea and Turner) plus Amor massive error let you down.

Great support from your fans,some funny chants.

Amazing how much of a detailed insight you can have from a radio commentary

Would not lay much faith in Merseyside sports crew who tend to be a little on the biased side, also I sat in many press boxes, remember you are not seeing the picture! I heard some real bad calls wrong names etc, decisions.

By the sounds of it, you've worked with Ray French

I'm sure Alan Rooney is just his support worker.

Ray: and er....Kyle Amor....er...runs it in
Alan: that's Vea, Ray!
Ray: Penalty to Saints, er...they should go for the two, Alan!
Alan: It's a knock on, Ray.

The ref constantly having to tell saints to get back 10 yet they ignored him and only penalised 3/4 for it...Cunningham was clutching at straws and sounds like a man who is expecting the bullet before long..

No worked full time for Radio City for 21 years, never forget being with Clive Tyldesley now ITV Football covering a Great Britain game at Central Park, he was doing it for all the ILR network & IRN, I did a two page chart with decisions on in pictures and their meanings, he had never covered a rugby league match before, but he was a big name! Best ever for me was a guy David Oates with Radio Manchester he was spot on, pleaded with BBC & RFL to replace French, sadly he died too young at 50, last 8 years he was their Manchester Utd match guy.

Agree completely with assessment of Ray & Alan show, more Morecambe & Wise, perhaps okay once. was impressed with Cullen yesterday on Bug Bash.

Radio Merseyside will never change anything unless somebody dies. The head of the station a few years back wanted to get me on to do comedy shows about Merseyside. They were well up for it. Then forgive the pun, I got radio silence. I was told a year or so later that the idea was put to bed by a certain influential radio presenter there.

Ray's been fantastic over his career but it needs a younger spin on it now and get someone to work with Alan Rooney, he should be the main man now.

The radio humberside commentators said that he was letting you get away with everything, 2 of your tries should have been disallowed and you should have had at least 2 men sin binned for persistent offending but these local radio bods do tend to be a bit biased towards their local clubs

Sounds as though hull were almost faultless in discipline and played everything to the laws of the game, up to this game they were averaging 8 penalties a game.

The ref that disallowed three tries for us (at least 2 of which were perfectly good) and allowed one of yours form a pass so forward it went behind our defensive line? That ref?

OK chief.

I,ve seen him ref a lot in the championship most definitely a Homer. He's reffed 10 games in super league this season and 80% of the home teams won under his control of the game. Think Paul Anderson of the Giants accused him of the same thing in the Catalan v Huddersfield, so I think its not going un-noticed, Wigan have lots of away games so I think Mr Wane will sort it out when paths are crossed.

Oh man. Pen count wasn't high enough. My team won and had the pen count and I still thought it was poor. We could of/should of had 20 plus. Offsides and messing at the play of the ball was some of the most scruffy I can remember seeing. Had 2 tries chalked that on initial viewing and without vid ref could of easily been given. Saints had a ludicrous try given. Bit laughable to say the ref was a homer

I don't see much point moaning about the ref, it just detracts from the real issue which is the team performance. Hull deserved their win. They got some decisions but so did we. It evens itself out over the season.

Good luck to Hull for the rest of the season.

Well said that man! Swings and roundabouts but usually the best team on the day wins. Good luck to Saints, lets hope we meet again this season.