It's embrassing seeing these line ups for next year with players we ain't even signed. Seen one yesterday with symonds in it and thought who the hell is he.

Another classic on here is the old "we don't need to replace this player as we have 19yr old kid who played 5 games in super league ". I remember when Jamie Lyon was leaving and fans was saying tyrer is good enough to step in. We didn't need to replace Chris Joynt as we had Matty Ashurst etc.

KC imo can still turn it around but not this year and next year we need to do whst Hull did and bring in 5/6 quality players and let the dead wood go.

Just to keep up wirh our teams for next year, here is mine

1) lomax/new fullback
2) new winger
3) new centre
4) Percival
5) Swift
6) fages
7) new scrum half
Walmsley
9)Roby
10) new prop
11) new 2nd row
12) new 2nd row
13) new loose

14) amor
15) Knowles
16)new prop
17) new utility

I would like to ask these fans you speak of, why, why would referees cheat? I've read a lot of this over the last few weeks. Referees are bias to one side or another, but WHY would they! Make mistakes, yes I can agree with that, but to purposely cheat in favour of one side or another, I would ask again why?

This, pretty much. I think also, each ref has their own " pet hates", whether ruck speed, offside, forward passes, whatever, and we see these offences policed differently by different refs (consistency, as you point out). I know most coaches emphasise this in pre-match planning, warning their players that this weeks ref is hard or lenient in certain areas. This might appear as bias if a ref is known to allow slow rucks, say, which a particular team might base their game on more than their opponents do.

Agree about the atmosphere.
there seems to be an absolute lack of care surrojndkng the club and its rubbing off on the fans.
im starting to enjoy how crap saints are now. Ive started finding it comical.
Kcs comments after the game are the highlight too.

Either the club is involved in a betting scheme or two of the greatest superleague players are absolutely clueless about rugby league.
if you watch some of the players in defence, it looks suspicious at times.

Fans are depressed even before the game with the selection of songs from the singers we've had recently. I had to laugh when the guy started singing My Way.