He needed a run out in one of the latter superleague games, can,t have much match awareness so agree don,t think he should be in the 17, unless there are some injury doubts.

Same team as last week but wheeler centre and sia on the bench.

Wheeler hasn't stood a chance since Simmons left. Same for Gaskell, Foster and Dixon. Makinson has only been playing because Gardner has been a long term injury. It wouldn't surprise me if Makinson was dropped this week for Gardner.

I can't wait for Rush to go.

To be fair on rush, he was always going to be judged on winning games and he's done that. He got us to third and that's where most thought we'd finish before season started.

Well, some people judge him on winning games. Others judge him on other things. For me, we could have ended up in third with a monkey in charge since we've been ending up in the top four since 2004 and how many coaches have we had in that period? However, Rush has wasted an opportunity to build on the experience our young talent got last season, favouring old blokes even when they are rubbish, lazy or lacking in the necessary skill. He has also turned us in to a team playing the worst possible style of rugby imaginable and then not doing it well either.

But Wheeler did stand a chance, unlike the rest. Or do you think that Jones should not have got in ahead of Wheeler.

Wheeler was dropped when Simmons was sacked. He's hardly played first team rugby since. Same with Gaskell and Dixon. And of course Foster has been shipped out completely.

I think Wheeler was doing fine before Simmons was sacked. He had been consistently one of our best players. There was no reason whatsoever to drop him as his form was good. IMO Rush wanted Jones, so Jones it was.

Wheeler was awful in the vast majority of games he played, choosing wrong options, being beat in defence, throwing awful passes. Jones has been consistently very good and has earned his shirt over Wheeler. I don't see your problem, rather just another chance for you to have a pop at rush, unnecessarily in this case.

You need to learn how to read a post.

I said that Wheeler was one of our best players before Simmons was sacked. How was that a comment on Wheeler's performance subsequent to Rush taking over? That's right. It wasn't.

Wheeler's form was great under Simmons. And lots of people on here were also saying Wheeler was one of our standout players at the start of the season, so I wasn't alone in that opinion (for once), not by a long chalk.

Wheeler was dropped by Rush IN SPITE OF being in good form, and replaced by Jones. Wheeler has looked poor in every match he has played since. No surprise really. All our young players from last season have gone backwards under Rush.

But he wasn't though, he had a couple of good games under Royce. He then had a couple of awful games under Rush and was subsequently dropped.

I can assure you I'm perfectly capable of reading your posts, I even managed a dot to dot last night.

But you're wrong though.

You're also incredibly childish.

big big season for mr wheeler next year for me josh jones has been better this year by quite some distance

Wheeler was playing well at time(0) when Rush took over, I agree. He picked up a niggling injury late on against Leeds and subsequently wasn't fit to play against Warrington. This is when Jones took over and played very well when his opportunity came. When Wheeler was back to fitness and came into the squad his form was awful and didn't earn his place back from Jones, rightly so. If you want to continue arguing blindly without presenting any evidence and substance to support your claims then tomorrow I will post all the stats for the relevant games for you to show his dip in form. Just because he was playing well before he got injured, doesn't guarantee his place on return if he plays badly.



A phrase most commonly used by boring people who have their own heads stuffed in a certain orifice. I don't like to conform to the immaturity/maturity badge that society has decided to brand on individuals.

Like I said, Wheeler was dropped by Rush when his form was good. Thanks for finally acknowledging the truth of the matter.

Jones has been better than Wheeler since Rush took over but then he's hardly played and so that wouldn't be difficult.