Yeah I know why he did it and it was a cheap shot and as I said they happen that doesn't bother me. I was annoyed that no one threw at Mossop for dropping one of our younger players given the size of the people we had stood around watching.

It was more handbags than anything, Ben Thaler and his touch judges were a joke! and not just with this incident, Childes is more suitable for youth games and Mr Roly Poly from St Helens is a laugh! it is a real weak part of our game, just think of the likes of Mick Naughton and Eric Clay they controlled games and let them flow.

I like Magennis but that was sh*thouse stuff.

Then again I can't help but be relieved that we have at least one player willing to show some aggression against Wigan, however brainless it may be, rather than rolling over and having his tummy tickled like most of the squad.

Had another look, frame by frame, (how sad is that!) but can't see anything that Hock did that was so bad, a bit of a not-roll, a couple of powder puffs to Scarsbrook's solar plexus, a bit of a cheek-to-cheek for a while, then a pull apart, end of that bit, a yellow at worst. The other event, Tuson and Magennis, on the other side of the scrum. They push each other, Tuson starts to turn away, Magennis fetches him a right-hander, Tuson goes a tad overboard in reponse, and apart for one-or-two minor incidenton on the sidelines, thats it for me. (sorry to be so sad about this)I hate it when other people are so sad but I'm just trying to show how this thing is going to be blown out of proportion to what it was. the real idiot was Thaler! it should have been yellows, then end of story! If we had lost I would want to blame someone, but I hope it would be the way we played the game and not a bad call from Thaler. Wigan is not a side of thugs, (nor are The Saints) it's a hard game for hard men, that's one reason we like it. So good luck to The Saints, and see you at the end of the season. you never know what might rest on that one!

Rock 'n' Roll.

Magennis was throwing punches at anyone in reach - he landed a couple on SoL after he'd broken it up between him and Tuson, and was heading in for more when Mossop floored him - it was probably the only way to stop him to be fair.

Out of all of it there was only Magennis who I thought was really out of order for puncing a bloke who wasn't even looking at him.

All the others - yellow cards would have been fine - reminded me abit of the times cowie and fogarty were scrumming down.

Well done? He didn't front up, he blindsided someone, which makes him a pathetic coward.

Eight matches.

OK. We'll get someone to punch you from behind whilst you're unsighted, and see much how YOU like it.

Defend yourself at all times.

But Magennis didn't defend himself. He punched someone from behind after they had turned away. That's not defending yourself, that's getting the first punch in, in the most cowardly way possible.

You advocate that, do you?

I haven't advocated anything you wet lettuce. What I said is - defend yourself at all times. Anyone who turns his back when a fight is kicking off is a fool.

Bans don't work on fighting ethics though eh champ? What is your opinion on Hock? Sending off sufficient? Unlucky to have been sent off despite having started a 26 man brawl and bringing the entire Magic weekend's positive PR down to a disgraceful end?

Er, you're wrong.

Magennis and Tuson hadn't had a fight up to then. They'd just grabbed each other's shirts. Their conflict was over, and Tuson turned TO FACE the main fight.

Magennis then blindsided him, which makes him a dirty cheapshot coward.

If you opened your other eye, you would see this.

Hurm ....

If Magennis was any good, I would be able to work myself up into a fuss about this. As it is, he is 33 games into his career and this is the most noteworthy thing he has done to date.

If/when he gets banned, we wont miss him - which says a lot about his contribution to the team.

Did you open your eyes when Sam was following up a kick and one Saints player just simply pushed him over! sportsmanship? of course neither referee or his two blokes with a flag saw it, TV did when I watched it late last night!

I have never seen so many high tackles as we see in the game today! one time it was a straight sending off offence.

In London The Metro hardly give Rugby League any coverage, but today they did mentioning Yes one incident, handbags at dawn! both teams let themselves down badly and The Game!