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| Dissapointed yes, but this is the type of game you get with Ian Smith. slow play the balls, lying on , forward passes, offside etc. etc. It was always going to be a tricky game with the amount of injuries and lack of playmakers.
Positives from the game, Dean Gaskill did OK, no more injuries, Wilkin rusty but put in a big effort.
If tonights performance came from our 1st 17 I would agree with the above comments, but this was very much a patched up team with no organizers in the side. Tonights 17 not good enough but thats the only squad we have got left at the moment.
3 good tries from Catalans after being "piggy backed" up the field by Ian Smith.
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| Quote: Judder Man "If tonights performance came from our 1st 17 I would agree with the above comments, but this was very much a patched up team with no organizers in the side. Tonights 17 not good enough but thats the only squad we have got left at the moment.'"
Ok. Of our first 17, who did we have on the field tonight?
Wellens
Gidley
Gardner
Meli
Graham
Roby
Clough
Puletua
Flannery
Wilkin
Fozzard (since we lost Maurie yonks ago and he's been playing quite a bit since then and he isn't exactly a debutant)
Our only totally inexperienced player was Gaskell and I felt sorry for him as it was a bit of a baptism of fire to do your debut but I was glad to see him get a try and he worked hard.
Lomax is a regular, when he is fit, and he played well.
Ashurst has been playing very regularly this season.
Moore has played in every match this season in one position or another either for the full 80 or as an interchange.
In effect, we were missing Cunningham, Pryce and Eastmond. Soliola has been gone for the season so we haven't missed him and Maurie has been gone so long that his absence no longer affects us, with Fozzard as a poor replacement but still a direct replacement.
We missed a creater and organiser. We still had enough experienced players out there to win or at least to be able to pass, catch and tackle, none of which most of those players could do tonight with any reliability. I really don't think injuries could be an excuse tonight. We have played far better with far fewer experienced players in our side. We played far better after we lost three players against Leeds last weekend.
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| hands off Millward !!!
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| Fair enough, potter has to take some of the blame but also the players need to take the blame as well.
Tonights team was good enough and should have beat Catalan but potter shouldn't take all the blame. He don't miss the tackles, he don't drop the ball, that is basic skills that these players at times this year can't do!
It's not Potters fault he's got to many players that ain't good enough.
Tactics and game plan shouldn't be needed against bottom of the league.
If potter should be sacked now then a few players should go with him.
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| Quote: St pete "Fair enough, potter has to take some of the blame but also the players need to take the blame as well.'"
Indeed. Potter's bizarre interchanges and screwing up the whole team as opposed to just the halfbacks didn't help but we had enough fire power out there to at least challenge the basement dwellers. However, we were never in that match. What a ridiculous waste of two points.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Indeed. Potter's bizarre interchanges and screwing up the whole team as opposed to just the halfbacks didn't help but we had enough fire power out there to at least challenge the basement dwellers. However, we were never in that match. What a ridiculous waste of two points.'"
Potter picked a team that was good enough to beat catalan. Even if they all played where they like and with no game plan we should still beat a poor Catalan side.
The players are as much to blame.
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| Quote: andrewgt "I will try to take a couple of positives, well one anyway - Lee Gaskell did well tonight, he didn't hide and tried to do his best. I have to agree with the previous poster re
Yes quite a wierd comment:
"We have to show more urgency and while there things to work on or keep talking about, sometimes the penny has to drop."
Peter Sellars would have been proud of that!
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| Quote: MattyB "Awaits a two match winning run and a 'We are the best team in the Comp' thread from the OP.
Someone hasn't done their homework now have they.
Can the boys and girls who turn up for school other than on nights Saints lose, tell the silly boy how many 'we're the best team in the comp' threads I've started in my history on RLFANS.COM.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Someone hasn't done their homework now have they.
Can the boys and girls who turn up for school other than on nights Saints lose, tell the silly boy how many 'we're the best team in the comp' threads I've started in my history on RLFANS.COM.'"
s'up lad....can't sleep?
Fretting I suppose!
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| Quote: MattyB "s'up lad....can't sleep?
Fretting about what exactly? I've been watching the live manhunt on Sky News.
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| Quote: St pete "
It's not Potters fault he's got to many players that ain't good enough.
this makes me smile.....it wasnt that long ago that people were telling us how good our youngsters are.
truth be known...half of them cant tackle...perhaps theyr'e not the world beaters they are made out to be...having said that some of the regular older players are as bad.
the points scored against us against catalan..and the 2 salford games combined 102 (or something like that)..is disgracefull seeing as these 2 teams are at the bottom of the pile..still i suppose potter will have seen the usual positives in the team....trouble is we havent.
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| Quote: RIGSBY "
I think people who know about rugby understand that when a team plays with young lads we will have our dips in form as they ain't 100% up to it yet.
What makes me smile about your comment is you've not read all my posts, I have said the team potter put out was good enough to beat Catalan.
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| Quote: RIGSBY "it wasnt that long ago that people were telling us how good our youngsters are.
truth be known...half of them cant tackle..'"
Um, which youngsters are you talking about? There was Gaskell, Lomax, Dean and Ashurst out there last night. Unless you include Moore as well. Dean was a turnstile, it has to be said, but Wellens wasn't much better. In fact, none of them was. None of them could tackle last night. Lomax worked hard though.
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| Quote: St pete "I have said the team potter put out was good enough to beat Catalan.'"
Damn right it was, which is why it is so annoying that we didn't even bother competing much less trying to win.
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| Quote: saint at wire "Yes quite a wierd comment:
"We have to show more urgency and while there things to work on or keep talking about, sometimes the penny has to drop."
Peter Sellars would have been proud of that!
He's right though. There just wasn't any urgency or energy in the side. Even in the 2nd half when we had the majority of the ball, we didn't play with any real speed. Too many players just didn't turn up to play. It was a really poor performance.
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