I think you are correct on all counts. LMS has been pretty decent for 3 seasons now, its his petty penalties last couple of seasons that is distorting his actual performances.

I've generally taken the approach of "if you have nothing nice to say ..." On this thread, but even though LMS has the 13 shirt, he has spent much more time in the second row over the last few years. His comparisons should be with the likes of Liam Farrell, John Bateman, Jack Hughes, Ben Currie, Glenn Stewart, Justin Horo, Frank Pritchard, Gareth Ellis etc etc.

I'd much prefer Savelio to inherit the 13 shirt, he's been hit and miss sure, but a large part of me believes that's because he doesn't want to be playing prop, and bringing him into the role he played throughout juniors will see him start to fulfil the dreaded "p word".

Can't stand him. Mistaken passion for talent.

I think we have to be careful here that we don't turn our pack into plodders and grafters, LMS and Wilkin are ball playing forwards and are the two players who have a significant impact on our tackle busts, clean breaks and offloads. Our developing players in Greenwood, Sav and Thompson don't have that skill set so we would have to find suitable replacements elsewhere.

LMS and Wilkin do work out wide and the likes of Fages are taking advantage of that on the second phase.

At the moment we have our returnees which is giving us the chance of a more expansive game. We could offload these two players but if they are not replaced then this team would be less pivotal and more restrictive

Thank you Someone with some sense!

I like him and think he adds to the team, he's not a world beater, but as long as he isn't paid as one I'm not bothered.