i'm surprised he has even started to get peoples names right, at one point he was struggling with thier nationality, IIRC he once said "here he comes the big number 8 the kiwi forward" and it was Paul Anderson. work that one out?

Player or Commentator there comes a time when you stand down and accept you have had you day! that is the case for Ray and should have been a season or two ago, same with Alan Rooney!

You're bang on! On the Wakefield commentary last week he even introduced himself as 'Ray er French'! I find it excrutiating listening to him. I'd rather listen to a Yorkshire station broadcasting their partisan commentary than put up with the chuckle brothers!

Redex, all your problems can be solved by tuning int Wish FM instead.

I was lucky enough to have Ray as both a teacher and coach. His renditions of Shakespeare and Chaucer written in "ye olde inglish" were hilarious. Some of his Quotes still live with me now some 35 years on.

Mark Anthony's funeral speech for Caesar went" We er cummy eerie to er berrrrry yer Caesar not to er um prayse Im"

The guy was a great motivator and still the only teacher I have ever seen hang a schoolyard bully by his coat on a coat hook feet dangling off the floor.l