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Quote: St pete "You don't think the wolves have more ambition than us?

They signed king, Atkins when we was looking for a centre.

They signed Joel Monaghan when we've needs wingers.

They signed myler when we needed a scrumhalf.

They beat us to the signing of carvell.

They beat us to the signing of Trent Waterhouse.

They beat us to the signing of Hill.

They beat us to the signing of Ratchford.

Just a few names of players that WAS available when we required them and we was in the mix for most.'"

hope this works 1st post,i think the boards concentration has been for the past few years has been on the stadium,player recruitment has come second,which has been poor,perry when signed was an aussie international /state of origin prop obviously he's on good money,sadly he's turned out to be championship material at best and we've got another year to put up with his lacklustre performances because no NRL club in their right mind would take him off our hands.Lance who the hell in the right mind gave him a 4 year deal,a player that does'nt excel in any position he's played either for NZW or NZ.He must have thought he'd won the lottery when we offered him a 4 year deal for a jack of all trades master of none at 29 years old.
Obviously laffranchi was signed to play in his natural position as a 2nd rower,but with jammer leaving and griffin backtracking on us,he,s had to try and bulk up and play prop which to a certain extent against the lesser teams he's done,but sadly he's found it hard against the top sides.Chris Hill was a risk no doubt but he was'nt going to be expensive,stefan ratchford was out of contract and was already showing great talent in an average team,so for next years recriutment we've got Manu replacing Flannery yep manu is a big plus ,but thank god the rumours we were offering him a 3 year deal to him proved false,Jordan Turner does not inspire me at all,if its true he was desperate to get to the sweet smelling side of the pennines then i hope he's come cheap

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Quote: SomersetSaint "If only clubs that win trophys year in year out are going to be successful, then the game really has no future. Fortunately, that isn't the case.'"


When you've got a brand new spanking stadium to pay for and need 10,000 season ticket holders a season then the has to be quality on the fieid.

All this, we are saved because we've got Langtree park is rubbish, we still need crowds.

Anyway, I'm not getting involved in the running of the business side, my gripe is the poor recruitment and retention over the past 5 years.

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Quote: St pete "But haven't we got the richest board in super league?

One guy is with £1.6b which is a lot of money in rugby league.

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The figure of $1.6b (not £'s) wasn't the personal wealth but the size of the hedge fund of which Coleman partly manages, basically what people let him choosew where its invested. The fund charges a fee for providing the management. Obviously successful hedge fuind managers are welathy people but not to the tune of £1.6b.

Interesting to note that the value of the fund has dropped by $1b over the last 12 months and talk of similar funds closing up shop completely.

www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/ ... E620120712


As for the other posts relating to Warrington potentially spending beyond their means then a few quid spent with companies house would show that for 4 of the last 5 years they have made a profit. This is what Saints need to emulate with their stadium.
Quote: St pete "But haven't we got the richest board in super league?

One guy is with £1.6b which is a lot of money in rugby league.

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The figure of $1.6b (not £'s) wasn't the personal wealth but the size of the hedge fund of which Coleman partly manages, basically what people let him choosew where its invested. The fund charges a fee for providing the management. Obviously successful hedge fuind managers are welathy people but not to the tune of £1.6b.

Interesting to note that the value of the fund has dropped by $1b over the last 12 months and talk of similar funds closing up shop completely.

www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/ ... E620120712


As for the other posts relating to Warrington potentially spending beyond their means then a few quid spent with companies house would show that for 4 of the last 5 years they have made a profit. This is what Saints need to emulate with their stadium.


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Quote: Paul Youane "As for the other posts relating to Warrington potentially spending beyond their means then a few quid spent with companies house would show that for 4 of the last 5 years they have made a profit.'"


...with pants and underachieving teams on the field for much of that time. [iAnd yet they've still somehow managed to attract punters and make money...[/i OMG! Maybe it is possible that Saints fans will continue to show up at LP without us needing to rival the national debt of Bolivia on signing non-existent star players! icon_surprised.gif WE'RE SAVED!!!!!! a014.gif Maybe RL fans aren't all glory hunting, simple minded numpty scumbags who will send their season tickets back in disgust if we don't clone Mal Meninga after all....

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I'll agree that recruitment and retention to an extent have been poor. I would say the retention to a large extent was out of our control as those players we wanted to retain we could never have retained. Leon Pryce is the only one that stands out for me that we could have kept but we let go. In Hindsight it was a bad choice, at the time with a handful of games in 3 years and a serious neck injury you could see the risk. However I think we have retained some who could have gone. Although I still say the Eastmond issue started 2 years before he left.

The recruitment has been a mixed bag rather than poor if I am honest. I don't think it's down to some plan or lack of effort, I just think it's been poor choices and poor results. I don't think it's some grand design it's just the way it goes sometimes and maybe it's something that we can review as a club about where it's gone wrong. ie is it the head coach? the Chief exec or is it a team effort? If it's the chief exec, I would not say bin the chief it just has to be recognised that it's not been great and should be delegated. I find it hard to believe Big Mac has the say on player choices though, I would imagine it's a coaches call, in which case recruitment would go back as far as DA. As Milward picked the players for DA's grand final winning side.

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Quote: bewareshadows " If it's the chief exec, I would not say bin the chief it just has to be recognised that it's not been great and should be delegated. I find it hard to believe Big Mac has the say on player choices though, I would imagine it's a coaches call, in which case recruitment would go back as far as DA. As Milward picked the players for DA's grand final winning side.'"


I could be wrong, but I don't think we actually have a Chief Executive any more?

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