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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Shows the absolute lack of morality still exists at wigan. In days gone by it was buying the title at the sports detriment now its employing drunks and drug addicts. They should have sacked Hock bbut they didn't and now they will happily play him again with a big 'he's back's fanfare. I would be ashamed if Saints behaved like this. Wigan have no class. They can't even abide by the rules of his ban without trying to get special treatment.
Scum.'"
 A bit like employing and welcoming back gamblers and cheats??
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| Quote Wigan Stu="Wigan Stu":lol: A bit like employing and welcoming back gamblers and cheats??'"
We didn't. It was all Martin Gleeson's fault, he made Longy do it and was subsequently binned off.
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Quote No1 Saint="No1 Saint"Well I've never heard of it enhancing many performances , at least not on the Rugby field anyways. Being illegal is a Police matter not a sporting one.'"
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“There is a new flexibility in the revised code in relation to specified substances and this flexibility can be used to lessen the sanctions. However, cocaine is not one of the specified substances. Its status as a prohibited substance remains as it was before.” Wada has never used the term “recreational drug” and when deciding on whether to ban a drug, it uses three criteria: is it performance-enhancing; is its use against the spirit of sport; is its use harmful or injurious to the athlete?
If Wada is satisfied that the drug meets two of these criteria, it is banned. Cocaine is believed to fit all three criteria."
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Quote No1 Saint="No1 Saint"Well I've never heard of it enhancing many performances , at least not on the Rugby field anyways. Being illegal is a Police matter not a sporting one.'"
cannazine.co.uk/class-a-substanc ... r-ban.html
“There is a new flexibility in the revised code in relation to specified substances and this flexibility can be used to lessen the sanctions. However, cocaine is not one of the specified substances. Its status as a prohibited substance remains as it was before.” Wada has never used the term “recreational drug” and when deciding on whether to ban a drug, it uses three criteria: is it performance-enhancing; is its use against the spirit of sport; is its use harmful or injurious to the athlete?
If Wada is satisfied that the drug meets two of these criteria, it is banned. Cocaine is believed to fit all three criteria."
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| Quote No1 Saint="No1 Saint"Well I've never heard of it enhancing many performances , at least not on the Rugby field anyways. '"
A metabolite in the cocaine is the performance enhancing element to the drug. I read about it just after Hock had been charged.
But aside from that, a cokehead on the pitch is a danger to a lot of people.
Quote No1 SaintBeing illegal is a Police matter not a sporting one.'"
So you would never report a crime then?
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| Quote Wigan Stu="Wigan Stu":lol: A bit like employing and welcoming back gamblers and cheats??'"
No not really.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"A metabolite in the cocaine is the performance enhancing element to the drug. I read about it just after Hock had been charged.
But aside from that, a cokehead on the pitch is a danger to a lot of people.
So you would never report a crime then?'"
You cant argue with facts but I doubt performance increase is why Hock was on the snow and as for reporting a crime , it depends on the crime. Taking recreational drugs the answer is no as it's non of my business.
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| Quote Wigan Stu="Wigan Stu":lol: A bit like employing and welcoming back gamblers and cheats??'"
You're an idiot. You are the one's who employed one of said gambler's and cheat's.
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| Quote No1 Saint="No1 Saint"You cant argue with facts but I doubt performance increase is why Hock was on the snow and as for reporting a crime , it depends on the crime. Taking recreational drugs the answer is no as it's non of my business.'"
Ah. Is rape your business? Burglary? A spot of benefit fraud maybe? A crime's a crime IMO.
But that's another debate.
I'm sure if you considered the potential danger that the rest of the players are in on the pitch when you have a druggie or drunk on there with you, you might consider reporting a 'recreational drug' crime. It's just that most people think it's fun. It's actually dangerous s h i t.
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| If the rules state Hock is banned from playing and training with any pro club for two years then that should be what happens. Just because it is a team sport makes no difference, once his ban is up then he can start training again.
I see that they are using an example from football but I hope the judge (or whoever decides on this) basically tells them his ban ends after 2yrs and then he can start training/playing for Wigan again. Anything else and I can see other players training all the way through their two year ban and just not being allowed to play.
Can anyone tell me could Hock have gone to play Union or any other pro sport in this country? As it is a World wide organisation that has banned him I would imagine it is any pro sport he is banned from??
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| Quote BackrowSaint="BackrowSaint"You're an idiot. You are the one's who employed one of said gambler's and cheat's.'"
And tried to sign the other?
A 2 year ban should mean a 2 year ban. I've heard rumour that the club have given him a training regime anyway and that he'd been training there, though I find the latter hard to believe as the club would be very stupid if that was the case.
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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"And tried to sign the other?
A 2 year ban should mean a 2 year ban. I've heard rumour that the club have given him a training regime anyway and that he'd been training there, though I find the latter hard to believe as the club would be very stupid if that was the case.'"
He isn't allowed contact with the club or to train with them. As ever the Goons just assume the rules foe everyone else don't apply to them.
I guess buying a ticket for the Wire game and being sat next to the Chairman / owner was just a big coincidence 
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