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| Hopefully we can continue our winning ways at this game, a long way to go but we looked sharp in the second half v Wakefield. Hopefully Handley will be OK.
Myler; Fusitua Newman MacDonald Handley/Olpherts; Austin Sezer; Holroyd O’Connor Tetevano; Bentley Martin; Smith.
Johnson Lisone Sangare Gannon/McDonnell/Walters/Donaldson
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Castleford copped a few injuries tonight with Sutcliffe going off with HIA and Westerman getting an injury which should mean they miss the game.
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| Quote: Frosties. "Hopefully we can continue our winning ways at this game, a long way to go but we looked sharp in the second half v Wakefield. Fully expect Handley to be OK.
Myler; Fusitua Newman MacDonald Handley; Austin Sezer; Holroyd O’Connor Tetevano; Bentley Martin; Smith.
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Castleford copped a few injuries tonight with Sutcliffe going off with HIA and Westerman getting an injury which should mean they miss the game.'"
On the past two games of form we should really take it to them. Cas really were awful tonight. Looked completely disinterested. But I'm sure they'll turn up against us.
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| Cas look even worse than Wakey. They're horrendous. (Famous last words!)
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| Sounds like Handley will be out a few weeks
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| There are some big upsets in the Cas camp at the minute. Personnel are leaving like rats on a sinking ship.
I'm not sure how I'm taking tonights Leeds game. I'll review the footage and first, but I wasn't overly impressed. We failed to look dangerous in the first half, Wakey got plenty of opportunity to put points past us, but also failed to finish.
We only appeared to take control on the second half after Wakey seccumbed to fatigue.
Maybe I missed a few things whilst trying to keep my eyeballs from freezing though.
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| Quote: Leeds_Luke "There are some big upsets in the Cas camp at the minute. Personnel are leaving like rats on a sinking ship.
I'm not sure how I'm taking tonights Leeds game. I'll review the footage and first, but I wasn't overly impressed. We failed to look dangerous in the first half, Wakey got plenty of opportunity to put points past us, but also failed to finish.
We only appeared to take control on the second half after Wakey seccumbed to fatigue.
Maybe I missed a few things whilst trying to keep my eyeballs from freezing though.'"
Nilling any SL team is massive.‘defence on song which is pleasing. Fatigue comes from pressure.
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| Quote: Shabino "Nilling any SL team is massive.‘defence on song which is pleasing. Fatigue comes from pressure.'"
Whilst I would normally agree, we are talking about a team with the worse attack in the league by a long shot and one who haven't found the tryline for three weeks now. And they looked more dangerous than us for a long period of the game. If that was any other team we would have gone into half time a couple of scores down and nothing to show for it.
Admittedly, we defended the line well. We held up players a couple of times and prevented what should have been a couple of tries without losing composure.
We did look weak in attack though. Up until Trinity fell apart and we started to put some good plays together. I know it was far from ideal conditions to play flowing rugby, and the players were suffering from the sub-zero temperature. And that goes for both teams.
I just can't help feeling somewhat uninspired by the Leeds performance. I know we would have likely lost the game to any team that actually knows how to score.
The performance did remind me a little of the circa 2011 (?) team how for most of the season would look terrible for the first half, but then pull a win out of the bag with a flurry of scores in the last 20 purely on fitness. Maybe it just looked similar under the circumstances with Trinity, but I hope we are returning to be the fittest team in the League again.
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| Quote: Leeds_Luke "Whilst I would normally agree, we are talking about a team with the worse attack in the league by a long shot and one who haven't found the tryline for three weeks now. And they looked more dangerous than us for a long period of the game. If that was any other team we would have gone into half time a couple of scores down and nothing to show for it.
Admittedly, we defended the line well. We held up players a couple of times and prevented what should have been a couple of tries without losing composure.
We did look weak in attack though. Up until Trinity fell apart and we started to put some good plays together. I know it was far from ideal conditions to play flowing rugby, and the players were suffering from the sub-zero temperature. And that goes for both teams.
I just can't help feeling somewhat uninspired by the Leeds performance. I know we would have likely lost the game to any team that actually knows how to score.
The performance did remind me a little of the circa 2011 (?) team how for most of the season would look terrible for the first half, but then pull a win out of the bag with a flurry of scores in the last 20 purely on fitness. Maybe it just looked similar under the circumstances with Trinity, but I hope we are returning to be the fittest team in the League again.'"
It was a poor first half, but teams get fatigued for a reason. Think the game plan revolves around moving the ball wider and earlier than the most teams and although mistakes are inevitably made it does tire the opposing middles. When we are bit more direct in the second half we start to find the gaps. One things for sure, that is a game we might well of lost in the Agar era.
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| Quote: ArthurClues " Think the game plan revolves around moving the ball wider and earlier than the most teams and although mistakes are inevitably made it does tire the opposing middles. '"
Yes, this definitely appears to be the game plan - keep the ball moving to keep the opposition running. Leeds have already shown moments of brilliance by doing this in the past few weeks, and I can't wait to see it in full flow when summer improves the conditions and players have honed their ball handling.
I get a nagging feeling that our light weight forwards have forced this style of play though. I like to see a couple of old school wrecking-ball forwards that need several defenders to stop. Leeds have always been a bit lightweight for me, but the current team of forwards just look small compared to other packs, even with a couple of heavy additions such as Sangare and Lisone.
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| Quote: Leeds_Luke "Whilst I would normally agree, we are talking about a team with the worse attack in the league by a long shot and one who haven't found the tryline for three weeks now. And they looked more dangerous than us for a long period of the game. If that was any other team we would have gone into half time a couple of scores down and nothing to show for it.
Admittedly, we defended the line well. We held up players a couple of times and prevented what should have been a couple of tries without losing composure.
We did look weak in attack though. Up until Trinity fell apart and we started to put some good plays together. I know it was far from ideal conditions to play flowing rugby, and the players were suffering from the sub-zero temperature. And that goes for both teams.
I just can't help feeling somewhat uninspired by the Leeds performance. I know we would have likely lost the game to any team that actually knows how to score.
The performance did remind me a little of the circa 2011 (?) team how for most of the season would look terrible for the first half, but then pull a win out of the bag with a flurry of scores in the last 20 purely on fitness. Maybe it just looked similar under the circumstances with Trinity, but I hope we are returning to be the fittest team in the League again.'"
absolute tosh
weird that youre going so far out of your way to be negative tbh
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| Quote: Leeds_Luke "Yes, this definitely appears to be the game plan - keep the ball moving to keep the opposition running. Leeds have already shown moments of brilliance by doing this in the past few weeks, and I can't wait to see it in full flow when summer improves the conditions and players have honed their ball handling.
I get a nagging feeling that our light weight forwards have forced this style of play though. I like to see a couple of old school wrecking-ball forwards that need several defenders to stop. Leeds have always been a bit lightweight for me, but the current team of forwards just look small compared to other packs, even with a couple of heavy additions such as Sangare and Lisone.'"
Light weight forwards?
Our pack this year is one of the biggest weve had in years. Not the biggest in thr League but I wouldn’t call it lightweight and we have oledski to come back in
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| Yeah, odd comment about the forwards
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| Quote: christopher "
Our pack this year is one of the biggest weve had in years. Not the biggest in thr League but I wouldn’t call it lightweight '"
But they could be called lightweight against other packs then? They need to eat more pies.
Leeds have carried a lightweight pack for years, and I like BIG stout forwards. That's all I'm saying. We have had a tenancy to get bullied in the middle by bigger forwards, thus the need to play the current free-flowing passing game - it suits lighter and more mobile forwards and punishes the heavier ones.
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| Quote: Leeds_Luke "But they could be called lightweight against other packs then? They need to eat more pies.
Leeds have carried a lightweight pack for years, and I like BIG stout forwards. That's all I'm saying. We have had a tenancy to get bullied in the middle by bigger forwards, thus the need to play the current free-flowing passing game - it suits lighter and more mobile forwards and punishes the heavier ones.'"
Lisone, Sangare and Olefski not big?
Bar the opening game we haven’t been bullied at all.
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| Quote: Leeds_Luke "But they could be called lightweight against other packs then? They need to eat more pies.
Leeds have carried a lightweight pack for years, and I like BIG stout forwards. That's all I'm saying. We have had a tenancy to get bullied in the middle by bigger forwards, thus the need to play the current free-flowing passing game - it suits lighter and more mobile forwards and punishes the heavier ones.'"
We are by no means lightweight anymore. I'm sure you'll point to the Wire defeat but worthing bearing in mind: No Oledski, Holroyd playing his first competitive SL game for more than a year, Lisone clearly not match fit, and Walters not selected. Donaldson on the bench may quickly become a thing of the past. Smith clearly values big middle forwards, but doesn't make them his plan A. Personally I applaud that.
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