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| Saints fan in peace just looking for clarification.
Last night Huddersfield got a penalty and tried to kick the goal. It didn't go over and the ball landed in the field of play and didn't go dead. Both teams and all the officials just jogged away into position for the restart, nobody made any effort to pick the ball up and play on.
Unless there's been a rule change my understanding is that the ball is still live and play should continue. Am I wrong?
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| I’d say you’re right. There are three possible outcomes: 1) ball is kicked between the posts, two points. 2) ball doesn’t go between the posts but goes dead, drop out. 3) ball doesn’t go between the posts but stays in play, play on.
The only caveat for play on in the last scenario is that the ref thinks it was a genuine attempt at goal.
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| Talking of rules, we were 12 14 down last night then got a 6 again in more than kickable range, should we not have the opportunity to level the scores with less than 10 to go?
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| Quote: Seth "Talking of rules, we were 12 14 down last night then got a 6 again in more than kickable range, should we not have the opportunity to level the scores with less than 10 to go?'"
I thought that, just hate the 6 again rule. Just bring back the quick tap let the players decide.
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| Quote: rollin thunder "I thought that, just hate the 6 again rule. Just bring back the quick tap let the players decide.'"
I'm not a massive fan of 6 again. BUT revert to a tap and the TV games get further ruined by even more frequent episodes of idiotic analysis of reffing by Baz, Tez, Wilkin etc...
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| Quote: Harry Pinner "Saints fan in peace just looking for clarification.
Last night Huddersfield got a penalty and tried to kick the goal. It didn't go over and the ball landed in the field of play and didn't go dead. Both teams and all the officials just jogged away into position for the restart, nobody made any effort to pick the ball up and play on.
Unless there's been a rule change my understanding is that the ball is still live and play should continue. Am I wrong?'"
He only missed 1 penalty, and that went dead
The kick that just missed and the ball stayed in goal was a conversion
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| Quote: Jukesays "He only missed 1 penalty, and that went dead
The kick that just missed and the ball stayed in goal was a conversion'"
I was only ½ watching to be fair
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| 6 again is good in principle but is often exploited.
Example, earlier in the season Saints used to often deliberately hold down on the first tackle for a team bringing the ball out of their 22. Bought Saints time to get their defensive line in order - worth it for the sake of one extra tackle. Not worth it if it a penalty is given instead.
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| Quote: Mr Scruff "6 again is good in principle but is often exploited.
Example, earlier in the season Saints used to often deliberately hold down on the first tackle for a team bringing the ball out of their 22. Bought Saints time to get their defensive line in order - worth it for the sake of one extra tackle. Not worth it if it a penalty is given instead.'"
Possible solution. Offence committed by defending side in opposition's 20 (40?), then it's a penalty rather than 6 again.
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| Quote: YosemiteSam "Possible solution. Offence committed by defending side in opposition's 20 (40?), then it's a penalty rather than 6 again.'"
Totally agree.
Sadly I'm not convinced there's anyone at the RFL with the vision to implement it.
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| Quote: YosemiteSam "Possible solution. Offence committed by defending side in opposition's 20 (40?), then it's a penalty rather than 6 again.'"
This is essentially the way the six again currently works in the NRL so I expect this modification will appear here next year.
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| Quote: Mr Scruff "6 again is good in principle but is often exploited.
Example, earlier in the season Saints used to often deliberately hold down on the first tackle for a team bringing the ball out of their 22. Bought Saints time to get their defensive line in order - worth it for the sake of one extra tackle. Not worth it if it a penalty is given instead.'"
I think this is spot on, as a saints fan I'd have to agree we did and still do it a lot. And I thought they'd brought in a rule change to counter this, like you're suggesting.
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