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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



19 man squad announced for England. Graham and Bateman are back in as are all 4 HB's in Williams, Widdop, Gale AND Brown. Taylor and Farrell drop out.

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So looks like just two of the HB's to miss out unless he goes with Widdop at FB. Can't see Brown getting in at this stage of the tournament against this opposition but quite surprised to see him included in the 19.

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I really dont see what Bennett is tying to do other than "up the middle then kick" which will get us nowhere imo he isn't even replicating Brisbanes shape.
For me i think we'll be lucky to lose by less than 20 & another wasted year of International RL passes us by no better.

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Probably the Betts factor keeping Brown in the 19.
I thought Taylor did enough to keep his place ahead of one of the Burgess`s no idea which one!
I might have put Ratchford in the 19 at FB unless like you say Widdop will play there.
Saying that Lomax did relatively well against NZ apart from the one bad miss.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "I really dont see what Bennett is tying to do other than "up the middle then kick" which will get us nowhere imo he isn't even replicating Brisbanes shape.
For me i think we'll be lucky to lose by less than 20 & another wasted year of International RL passes us by no better.'"


The game vs Scotland the 2nd half it was so poor to see the ball just kept in the middle of the pitch when we were near Scotland's line. The only player who took it wide was Williams and he created tries (so he'll probably be dropped for defying Bennett's wish to stay in the middle). I think the only time Hall, Percival and McGillvary touched the ball in Scotland's half in the second 40 was when they did the simple task of putting the ball down...Watkins I don't think got a single pass in that half.

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we will get field position and chances like we did against NZ in that first half hour. we should have put them to bed in that game but couldn't find a way to the line. we have to be clinical against the Aussies because they will punish us for not doing so. We have a chance, it is slim but if our big game players can all step up and we don't bomb chances you never know.

lets face it, its about time we did them after a decade since we last did.

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Quote: chapylad "Probably the Betts factor keeping Brown in the 19.
I thought Taylor did enough to keep his place ahead of one of the Burgess`s no idea which one!
I might have put Ratchford in the 19 at FB unless like you say Widdop will play there.
Saying that Lomax did relatively well against NZ apart from the one bad miss.'"

Both burgess twins have been poor and so has Sam. Certainly thought Taylor deserved his place

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I'd put Sam Burgess in the backrow with Whitehead, and have Cooper, or Graham at loose. Widdop will play in the halves, and I honestly have no idea who Bennett will pick at 7.

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We have to create something to have any chance. So I would play Brown at 6 Williams at 7 and Widdop instead of Percival.

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Nobody watching Scotland?? Doing themselves proud again tonight

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Quote: Seth "Nobody watching Scotland?? Doing themselves proud again tonight'"


Yes, pleasantly surprised. I thought this game would start to see the effort they put in the first two games catch up with them and with NZ knowing they need to points I thought it would be a stroll for the kiwis.

Still 40 mins to go and the Kiwis could get away from them as the game progresses but ATM Scotland are doing England a favour.

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I would go with Williams and Windows in the halves. Unfortunately Gale hasn'the brought his Castleford form to the England shirt and it would be a major risk to bring Brown in against Australia when he has only had roughly 30 minutes of game time with the team.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Yes, pleasantly surprised. I thought this game would start to see the effort they put in the first two games catch up with them and with NZ knowing they need to points I thought it would be a stroll for the kiwis.

Still 40 mins to go and the Kiwis could get away from them as the game progresses but ATM Scotland are doing England a favour.'"


If Scotland can continue to improve how they finish their sets and retain their discipline they can keep it tight.

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Quote: Seth "Nobody watching Scotland?? Doing themselves proud again tonight'"


They've been the better team over the first 40 but haven't taken their chances. No matter what happens in this second half they can hold their heads up high.

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came within 10 minutes of victory, great effort. that means all england need is victory...easy!!

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