Title says it all no amount of excuses or even reasinable debate can justify this Season & it's time Coaches/Players are thanked & moved on.
Not 1 snr player has put his hand up to lead ,the Coach(es) has been blatantly exposed as not having 1 clue what to do without Sinfield/JP & the CEO has got his recruitment/retention responsability woefully wrong as well.
Time to dust off that cheque book & issue some p45's over to you Gary!

couldn't agree more however I do think JJB has tried to lead. however he's shot, he needs to finish

Decent shout in terms of energy & effort but today once again highlighted after 20 mins he's a liabillity.

if we get a top class halve to lead us around i'd keep McGuire. he's no leader or organiser though

Loyalty is a lovely thing to have when you're doing well. If GH stays loyal to this playing and coaching group over the winter though, he's failing in his job.

We don't need an overhaul, we just need a few key changes

New coach, plus signing a new 9 and 7 and removing and replacing any poisonous elements behind the scenes that we can't see

On top of that is has become clear that we need a reserve team

We don't need an overhaul, we just need a few key changes

New coach, plus signing a new 9 and 7 and removing and replacing any poisonous elements behind the scenes that we can't see
JJB and Burrow would be solid bench/squad players a but probably shouldn't play 80 mins, whilst Mags would still go well for another couple of years next to a controlling 7

On top of that is has become clear that we need a reserve team

for fffs sake coach has to go along with Mags who as much as i have appreciated him and love him to bits is shot and worrying enough Burrow and J.J.B along with Hall were just about our best players . The place stunk today , no excuses if with the players availible and 12 points up we could not win that then get out Mac you have become an embarresment . Our attempt at setting up a drop goal was like an act from Billy Smarts circus .

Had enough today !

The way he couldn't wait to leave the pitch at the final whistle, without the customary thanks for the incredible support, probably demonstrated that his days are numbered. Loyalty is fantastic but when the skill levels have fallen to an all time low its time to say goodbye. Concentrate on learning your lines JJB your RL playing days are over.

Absolute Bolloc/ J.J.B ran his blood to water , there were far worse than him today

And therein lies half of the problem.

We're so far down on quality that we're picking people for just putting in an effort.

Ward's energy and mobility have been a massive miss from the back row this season, meaning longer minutes and more consecutive games needed from the likes of JJB and Achurch.

Impossible to fault JJB's efforts today but how many stupid penalties did he concede at vital times?

I suspect many Leeds fans are actually only feeling apathy after such a long period of disappointment.

McDermott won't be here next season anyway so don't worry.

I don't see anything coming from the club to suggest McDermott will not be in place next season