In McDermott's own words after the magic game : "I don't think I'm giving up on the Grand Final ". This man must be delusional. Even the bookies have Leeds over 100/1 to win the Grand Final. Leeds Rhinos have more chance of rowing a boat up mount Everest than getting to the Grand Final.

Leeds only goals right now should not extend beyond...

1) Winning the next game
2) Avoid finishing bottom

Any goals beyond that are unrealistic.

Seems reasonable to me

We've won it from 5th before..............

Only one flaw in that under the current system...

C'mon, he's hardly likely to come out and say we've completely buggered up, we've surrendered all our hard won trophies with barely a whimper and look completely shot. Gawwys got tickets to sell after all.

Similar to B McD, I am hoping to still win the GF this year. I am going to get a team together involving Peter Beardsley as he is a rugby league fan, and I have met one other person who likes rugby league since moving to Scotland. So that is 3 of the required 17...

In all seriousness though, he really needs to stop saying those things as it is making him and the club look and sound more ridiculous each week. He'd be much better saying the aim is to try and grind out a win or two, rather than to win probably like 12 games in a row like they would now need to even make it slightly possible. They haven't won more than 1 game in a row so far, have they..?!

You can't do that anymore though.

Before Leeds can start thinking about winning a game, they need to be contesting for longer parts of the game. All looks a long way.

So talks about a Grand Final place are absolutely mental.

If you win every single remaining game (15/15), you will end up on 36 points.

Last year that still wouldn't have got you into the top 4.

You can still get 500/1 for you to win the GF. Frankly 5,000,000/1 would be far too short a price.

I know McDermott has to be seen to be remaining positive and believing in his team, but come on Brian, do yourself a favour.

Look it's perfectly plausible to believe that having just won 3 from 15 a 15 from 15 could be about to happen - starting at Warrington on Friday.

Leeds' Regular Round record V Warrington at the Helliwell Jones under McDermott of played 5, won 0, drawn 0, lost 5, avg score Warrington 28 - 14 Leeds is testament to that belief.

Can you win it from 12th then?