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Ian Kirke's position in our stats for this year, along with the people better/worse than him.

Tackles: 6th, 526. (1st Peacock, 2nd JJB, 3rd Ablett, 4th Sinfield, 5th Clarkson)

Tackle Accuracy: 3rd, 83%. (1st Ablett, 2nd Moon) *of players with more than 400 tackles

Busts: 15th, 14. (level with Leuluai & Singleton, ahead of Bailey, Delaney & Moore)

Carries: 15th, 180. (ahead of Achurch, Singleton, Sutcliffe & Moore)

Metres: 14th, 1317. (ahead of Achurch, Singleton, Sutcliffe & Moore)

Average Gain: 10th, 7.3. (highest of any forward with more than 5 appearances)

Offloads: joint 11th, 12 (level with Ablett, ahead of Clarkson & Delaney)

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I don't claim these are the stats of a star prop. But as the stats of a 20-minute give-JP-a-breather prop, they are at least comparable to others in the squad.

The best stats we could have would be all the absolute ones used in this post, adjusted for minutes on the pitch. Tvoc?

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Quote: Separate Ways "Ian Kirke's position in our stats for this year, along with the people better/worse than him.

Tackles
They're also less than 1/10th of the number of individual stats that the players are actually measured against. We see the headline grabbing stats each week and some people think that leaves them in a position to judge.

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I was half expecting a tattoo of him flicking the bird at you all on his face or something.

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Quote: Wheels "I was half expecting a tattoo of him flicking the bird at you all on his face or something.'"



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You must be proud Mrs Kirke but whilst young Ian is happy to accept his role as an inhaler for his superiors I'm not happy to see a prestigious blue and amber jersey wasted in such a fashion.

Oh, and he gets more than 20 mins.

He's a waste of a jersey.

Yours chief Kirke hater.

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Quote: Wheels "I was half expecting a tattoo of him flicking the bird at you all on his face or something.'"

He'll let JP do that for him. His job is to give JPs index finger a rest until JP is ready to flip the bird to us haters.

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Ahh comparing stats against 2 young lads (Sutcliffe ,Singleton) who have just broke through into the team and also btw he's played more games than Bailey ,Moore ,Achurch Singleton and Sutcliffe.
For a Champion team as 3rd/4th choice Prop and a regular in the matchday 17 he doesn't do enough or run his weight and size.

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



A Kirke thread?

It's been a while.

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Quote: ThePrinter "A Kirke thread?

It's been a while.'"


Kirke must be well miffed that Vickery is no longer here

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Stats can be used to show anything. As the forward who has played most games he's likely to fair pretty well in cumulative stats

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Quote: Separate Ways "Ian Kirke's position in our stats for this year, along with the people better/worse than him.

Tackles

BURP.

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Quote: Separate Ways "Tackle Accuracy

I'm not inclined to scrutinise these too closely but dude Moon, Kirke, Ablett are nowhere near close to being Leeds most 'accurate' tacklers of those that have made over 400 in 2013. They sit 10th 11th and 12th respectively of the twelve players I have on that list.

Quote: Separate Ways "I don't claim these are the stats of a star prop. But as the stats of a 20-minute give-JP-a-breather prop, they are at least comparable to others in the squad.

The best stats we could have would be all the absolute ones used in this post, adjusted for minutes on the pitch. Tvoc?'"


I don't have access to minutes played - I've tried but found it extremely time consuming even for the televised games let alone any of the others.

What we do have now though is those stats reported by Opta over a full Regular Round season and here are the key ones (IMO), just for the players generally regarded for the prop positions.

2013 Appearances (SL Regular Rounds Only, from a possible 27)

1 - Kirke – 26 (Inc 23 Subs)
2 - Peacock – 23 (Inc 1 Sub)
3 - Leuluai – 19 (Inc 2 Subs)
4 - Moore - 16 (Inc 13 Subs)
5 – Singleton - 14 (Inc 5 Subs)
6 - Bailey - 11 (Inc 1 Sub)

The following are all expressed as an average per appearance

Metres:

1 - Peacock - 156.17
2 - Leuluai - 85.84
3 - Singleton - 66.43
4 - Kirke - 50.65
5 - Bailey - 50.00
6 - Moore - 49.38

Carries:

1 - Peacock - 23.57
2 - Leuluai - 12.00
3 - Singleton - 9.86
4 - Bailey - 9.00
5 - Moore - 6.94
6 - Kirke - 6.92

Metres Per Carry:

1 - Kirke - 7.32
2 - Leuluai - 7.15
3 - Moore – 7.12
4 – Singleton – 6.74
5 - Peacock - 6.63
6 - Bailey – 5.56

Tackle Busts:

1 - Peacock – 1.87
2 - Bailey – 1.18
3 - Singleton – 1.00
4 - Leuluai – 0.74
5 - Moore – 0.56
6 - Kirke – 0.54

Clean Breaks:

1 - Peacock – 0.13
2 - Singleton – 0.07
3 - Kirke – 0.04


Tackles:

1 - Peacock – 32.57
2 - Bailey – 24.45
3 - Singleton – 22.21
4 - Kirke – 20.23
5 - Leuluai – 19.00
6 - Moore – 13.88

Missed Tackles:

1 - Peacock – 1.83
2 - Kirke – 1.65
3 - Singleton – 1.50
4 - Bailey – 1.45
5 - Leuluai – 1.16
6 - Moore – 0.94

Tackle Success:

1 - Peacock – 94.69%
2 - Bailey – 94.39%
3 - Leuluai – 94.26%
4 - Singleton – 93.675%
5 - Moore – 93.671%
6 - Kirke – 92.44%

Penalties Conceded:

1 - Peacock – 0.957
2 - Bailey – 0.636
3 - Leuluai – 0.632
4 - Moore – 0.625
5 - Singleton – 0.571
6 - Kirke – 0.231

Errors:

1 - Bailey – 0.55
2 - Peacock – 0.52
3 - Leuluai – 0.47
4 - Moore – 0.44
5 - Singleton – 0.43
6 - Kirke – 0.38

(All are only in the view of Opta so how much store you invest in them is a matter of personal opinion.)

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Quote: The Eagle "Stats can be used to show anything. As the forward who has played most games he's likely to fair pretty well in cumulative stats'"


Our opinions count for ZILCH.
I only know that 3 coaches, including our present coach,have selected Kirke on a regular basis.
Maybe they see something that you're all missing.
I bow to their superior knowledge of the game and the man.


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Quote: tvoc "I'm not inclined to scrutinise these too closely but dude Moon, Kirke, Ablett are nowhere near close to being Leeds most 'accurate' tacklers of those that have made over 400 in 2013. They sit 10th 11th and 12th respectively of the twelve players I have on that list.

I don't have access to minutes played - I've tried but found it extremely time consuming even for the televised games let alone any of the others.

What we do have now though is those stats reported by Opta over a full Regular Round season and here are the key ones (IMO), just for the players generally regarded for the prop positions.

2013 Appearances (SL Regular Rounds Only, from a possible 27)

1 - Kirke – 26 (Inc 23 Subs)
2 - Peacock – 23 (Inc 1 Sub)
3 - Leuluai – 19 (Inc 2 Subs)
4 - Moore - 16 (Inc 13 Subs)
5 – Singleton - 14 (Inc 5 Subs)
6 - Bailey - 11 (Inc 1 Sub)

The following are all expressed as an average per appearance

Metres

Stats don't always tell the full story but these certainly tell us that JP is a beast!!!

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